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zarkam21:

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zarkam21:

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Vocaloid:

for every point you are given the polar coordinates (r, theta) to find the rectangular (x,y) coordinates simply find x = r*cos(theta) y = r*sin(theta)

Vocaloid:

still there? ^^

zarkam21:

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zarkam21:

Yes I was doing the math lol

zarkam21:

would this be right

Vocaloid:

almost on the first one the y value would be positive sqrt(2) not negative everything else is good

zarkam21:

wait the sin one right

Vocaloid:

yes, instead of 2sin(3pi/4) = -sqrt(2) it's sqrt(2)

zarkam21:

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Vocaloid:

this is a bit more complicated but for every value (x,y), to find r and theta: r = sqrt(x^2 + y^2) and theta = arctan(y/x)

zarkam21:

sqrt(4^2 + 0^2)

zarkam21:

4

zarkam21:

arctan (0/4)

zarkam21:

0

Vocaloid:

good, so putting everything together you get r= 4 and theta = 0 so (4,0) = your solution

zarkam21:

sqrt(3^2 + 4^2) = 5 arctan (4/3) = 53.13 degrees

zarkam21:

(5,53.13 degrees)

Vocaloid:

well done

zarkam21:

sqrt(2^2+(-2)^2) = 2 sqrt 2 Arctan (-2/2) = -57.3 degrees (2sqrt2,-57.3)

Vocaloid:

arctan(-2/2) = arctan(-1) which has the value -45 degrees

zarkam21:

sqrt(2^2+(-2)^2) = 2 sqrt 2 Arctan (-2/2) = -45 degrees (2sqrt2,-45degrees)

Vocaloid:

actually since theta is usually given as an angle between 0 and 2pi it would be a good idea to add 360 to that to get 315 degrees

zarkam21:

sqrt(2^2+(-2)^2) = 2 sqrt 2 Arctan (-2/2) = -45 degrees + 360 = 315 (2sqrt2, 315 degrees)

Vocaloid:

good, perfect

zarkam21:

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Vocaloid:

uh let's take it one at a time for the first one start by identifying the angle and radius

Vocaloid:

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zarkam21:

5pi/3

Vocaloid:

good, what about the radius? notice how the red line stops at about halfway between 2 and 3

zarkam21:

2.5

Vocaloid:

good so that gives us one set of polar coordinates to get another set of polar coordinates we can multiply the r by -1 and subtract pi from the angle value

zarkam21:

2.5*-1

Vocaloid:

good, that gives us -2.5 as the second possible r-value

zarkam21:

so 2.5 and -2.5

Vocaloid:

you must also consider the theta values if we subtract pi from 5pi/3 we get 2pi/3 so two possible coordinates are (2.5,5pi/3) and (-2.5, 2pi/3)

Vocaloid:

if you'd like you can try the same process with b)

zarkam21:

oh okay i think I get it

zarkam21:

i will try it and then you can check it

zarkam21:

(4,3pi/2) and (-4,pi/2)

Vocaloid:

perfect

zarkam21:

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Vocaloid:

from what I remember r = 9cos(5theta) should be a five-petalled rose with a radius of 9 (so the farthest parts of the petals should reach 9) I don't remember the rules for how to orient the rose but you could try plugging in various theta values into the equation to see where the points should be

Vocaloid:

oh, right, since it's a cos rose there should be a petal aligned exactly with the x-axis and then the other petals should be separated by 2pi/5 radians (you will have to do some estimation) so something like:

zarkam21:

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Vocaloid:

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Vocaloid:

almost, gotta make sure that first petal is symmetric about the x-axis

Vocaloid:

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zarkam21:

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Vocaloid:

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Vocaloid:

otherwise good

zarkam21:

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Vocaloid:

that petal needs to be right along the x-axis you can use this as a reference https://www.desmos.com/calculator/ms3eghkkgz

Vocaloid:

not above or below it

zarkam21:

wait is this file supposed to look like a rose?

zarkam21:

i dont see it :/

Vocaloid:

on desmos you need to plug in 9cos(5theta) as the reference function it's just called a rose for naming purposes, it's more like a daisy tbh

zarkam21:

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Vocaloid:

that petal could be a bit lower but otherwise good

zarkam21:

okay so now we have to name out the symmetries for the polar equation. WOULd it just be pi/2

zarkam21:

and have to tell what scale I used for the polar axis

Vocaloid:

oh well, there's a couple forms of symmetry here: notice how the rose can be divided in half along each of the five petals so it's not just the polar axis, it's also theta = 2pi/5, 4pi/5, 6pi/5, 8pi/5 there's also symmetry with respect to the pole (notice how each corresponding point on each petal is the same distance from the origin)

Vocaloid:

as for the scale, since we made each tick mark equal to 1 unit, simply state that each dotted radial mark represents 1 unit

zarkam21:

Okay so we are on the second part to this question

Vocaloid:

Right Is there anything about part a) that's still unclear?

zarkam21:

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zarkam21:

I used desmos as a reference

Vocaloid:

What's the function

zarkam21:

NO I think I got part A in the bag. I think I understand it

zarkam21:

that I graphed? r=2 cos theta

Vocaloid:

yeah I think that's alright need some help with the symmetry and scale?

zarkam21:

hold on let me look at the previous question and see if I can figure it out from what you said ^~^

zarkam21:

well the scale used is that each dotted radical mark represents 1 unit.

Vocaloid:

*radial but yes

Vocaloid:

anyway for symmetry there's only one line, the polar axis

zarkam21:

The picture this function makes on the graph is a circle. This is also theta = 0.2pi, 5pi/3, pi/3, The scale used is that each dotted radial mark represents 1 unit.

zarkam21:

OH okay

zarkam21:

So the theta part is incorrect?

Vocaloid:

yeah don't include that part

Vocaloid:

everything else is fine

zarkam21:

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Vocaloid:

9a: since we don't have r we only need to consider arctan(y/x) = theta taking tan of both sides gives us y/x = tan(theta) so y = xtan(theta) = xtan(1.34 radians) so this is just a straight line with slope tan(1.34)

zarkam21:

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Vocaloid:

uh not sure where g is coming from

zarkam21:

Lol ,

zarkam21:

I think we shall move on , no ? :)

zarkam21:

OKay so for the second one, I got all real numbers . I put it into Wolfran Alpha

zarkam21:

0 = pi n

Vocaloid:

sure so if r = sec(theta)tan(theta) we can re-write the function in terms of sin and cos r = [1/cos(theta)] * [sin(theta)/cos(theta)] multiplying both sides by r*cos^2(theta) gives r^2 * cos^2(theta) = r*sin(theta) since x = rcos(theta) and y = r(sintheta) we can simply re-write this as x^2 = y

Vocaloid:

so it's a parabola

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