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zarkam21:

Help please

zarkam21:

@dude

dude:

Oh, post the q

zarkam21:

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dude:

First one just asks about the description of the graph? I guess you can say that that its range cannot be negative (f(x)) For the second one the denominator cannot be 0, at least thats what I assume it means by that question Do you know how to write the functions as, f(g(x)), g(f(x)) and so on?

zarkam21:

Nope

zarkam21:

for c would it be that the functions cannot be zero too

zarkam21:

@Vocaloid

silvernight269:

@Vocaloid

zarkam21:

@dude

zarkam21:

Im on can we continue please :)

dude:

f(g(x)) okay so the outside part is just the equation and whatever is inside you will substitute inside of the equation outside, for example the first one \(f(x)=\sqrt{x^2-2}\) => substitute \(g(x)=\frac1x\) in for x \(f(g(x))=\sqrt{{\frac{1}{x}}^2-2}\) (Note: \(\frac{1}{x}^2\) is just \(\frac{1^2}{x^2}\) or \(\frac{1}{x^2}\)) so \(\sqrt{{\frac{1}{x^2}}-2}\)

dude:

Does that make sense?

zarkam21:

Yes so for a-d we write the equation and descriptions?

dude:

It only seems to ask for the domain

zarkam21:

ANd the domain would be the possible variables right?

dude:

All the possible x values, yes

zarkam21:

okay so for a,

zarkam21:

it would be : the domain of this function is all real numbers?

zarkam21:

and its range cannot be negative?

zarkam21:

\[(-\infty,0) U (0,\infty)\]

zarkam21:

This is the domain actually

zarkam21:

i mean i would this it is

zarkam21:

? ya there

dude:

Not quite, the square root cannot be less 0 because it would be undefined \(\sqrt{\frac{1}{x^2}-2}\ge 0\) \((\sqrt{\frac{1}{x^2}-2})^2\ge 0^2\) which is just removing the root \(\frac{1}{x^2}-2\ge0\) Turn the -2 into a fraction with the same decimal by multiplying by \(x^2\) on both sides \(\frac{1}{x^2}-\frac{2x^2}{x^2}\ge 0\) \(\large\frac{-2x^2+1}{x^2}\ge 0\) You can factor this to isolate the negative \(\large \frac{-(\sqrt{2}x+1)+(\sqrt{2}x+1)}{x^2}\ge 0\) Multiply both sides by -1 (inverse the inequality) \(\frac{(\sqrt{2}x+1)+(\sqrt{2}x+1)}{x^2}\le 0\) Now just redistribute the factors \(\frac{2x^2-1}{x^2}\le 0\) You now just want to make a (sign diagram) find when \(2x^2-1\) negative as well as \(x^2\) \(2x^2-1=0\) =>\(2x^2=1\) =>\(x^2=\frac12\) =>\(x=\pm\sqrt{\frac12}\) and \(x^2=0\) =>\(x=0\) Anyway, made this too long but basically \(\mathbb D:[-\sqrt{\frac{1}{2}},0) ~U~(0,\sqrt{\frac{1}{2}}]\)

zarkam21:

okay so I think I understand this. Would my statement about the range not being negative be valid

dude:

Yes its valid

zarkam21:

okay for the next one the domain would be the opposite then

dude:

\(g(f(x))=\frac{1}{\sqrt{x^2-2}}\) From this we know that the denominator has to be greater than 0 \(\sqrt{x^2-2}\ge0\) \(x^2-2\ge0\) \(x^2\ge2\) \(\pm\sqrt2\) \(\mathbb D:-\sqrt{2}>x ~and~x>\sqrt{2}\)

zarkam21:

question

zarkam21:

does the zero cancel out?

dude:

Where

zarkam21:

when you get from x^2-2-0 to x^2>2

dude:

\(x^2-2\ge0\) \(x^2\ge2\) \(\pm\sqrt2\) this part?

zarkam21:

oh bcuz zero doesnt satisfy the function?

zarkam21:

yes

dude:

\(\sqrt{x^2-2}\ge0\) So I first raised both sides to the second power so the root cancels and I have to do 0^2 0^2 is just 0, it doesn't cancel itself \(x^2-2\ge0\) \(x^2\ge2\) \(\pm\sqrt2\) Does that answer your question?

zarkam21:

Yes it does .

zarkam21:

forc we wouldnt use 1/x in our function

zarkam21:

so would the f equation just double like be used twice

dude:

Right

dude:

\(f(f(x))=\sqrt{\sqrt{x^2-2}-2}\)

dude:

Same with the fourth one \(g(g(x))=\frac{1}{\frac{1}{x}}\) which is just x

zarkam21:

okay give me a sec while I figure out the domains

dude:

Okay

zarkam21:

\[(-\infty,-\sqrt{6}] U [\sqrt{6},\infty)\]

dude:

Yes

zarkam21:

Yay, and for an explicit description would it be that no negative numbers?

zarkam21:

and then for d it would be \[(-\infty,\infty)\]

zarkam21:

so all real numbers

dude:

Yes to both

zarkam21:

Yay

dude:

woot

zarkam21:

dude:

For rational functions, the denominator is ≠0

zarkam21:

for this one,,, domain for p(x) \[(-\infty,1)U(1,\infty)\]

dude:

Right

zarkam21:

domain for q(x) = \[(-\infty,\infty)\]

dude:

Yeah, no restrictions there

zarkam21:

okay for b how would I show that

dude:

Set them equal to each other \(\large \frac{x^3-x}{x-1}=x^2+x\)

zarkam21:

okay and solve?

dude:

Yes

zarkam21:

I got all real numbers

zarkam21:

for do I plug in 1?

dude:

Yes

zarkam21:

\[\frac{ 1^3-1 }{ 1-1 }1^2+1 = false\]

dude:

Well the issue is when you substitute 1 in the denominator, remember we wrote the range \(\large \frac{x^3-x}{x-1}\) x could not be 1 because it makes the denominator 0 So trying to substitute would automatically make it undefined \(\large \frac{1^3-1}{\color{red}{1-1}}=1^2+1\)

zarkam21:

okay and for c : yes, the functions are the same because when you combine them you end up with the same answer

dude:

Right

zarkam21:

okay: and I already sketched it so next question

zarkam21:

x=1+e?

dude:

Okay, have you tried solving or are you lost? Also I havent done logs in some time, I'm rusty

zarkam21:

I solved and got x=1+e

dude:

For the first or second equation? o.o

zarkam21:

1st

dude:

I got something different, what did you do?

zarkam21:

i simplified , and then isolated

zarkam21:

its all written out and its hard cause i cant take a pic

dude:

Ah its okay

zarkam21:

SO are we good with my answe?

zarkam21:

@Angle

Angle:

x=1+e is correct

zarkam21:

Yay

zarkam21:

and for the next equation x=1+sqrt2

Angle:

I believe there should be two answers

zarkam21:

for the first equation

zarkam21:

?

Angle:

for the second equation x=1+sqrt2 is correct but I think there is another one

zarkam21:

1+(-sqrt2)?

Angle:

yup you can sum it up into one answer with x = 1 ± sqrt(2)

zarkam21:

perfect. and just need help with one more

zarkam21:

if you can

Angle:

sure

zarkam21:

Angle:

here's an example |dw:1536896603620:dw|

zarkam21:

so 0.002/1/2

Angle:

mmm it's called "half" life, but it doesn't have to be 'half' |dw:1536896784825:dw|

zarkam21:

oh okay so the half life is 500

zarkam21:

Thank you angle !!!!

Angle:

no problem haha hopefully I'm not wrong ^_^"

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