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kaylak:

calc help

kaylak:

@Vocaloid

kaylak:

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Vocaloid:

a) the red segment is the hypotenuse so naturally it will be longer than the green segment b) you have to get this using your program c) assuming he starts at x = 0, goes 1m/4 seconds, use distance = rate*time to calculate the distance after 3 secs.

kaylak:

the program doesn't give me anything unless I have to assume the dashes as a 0.25 meter so is the distance then 0.75?

kaylak:

@Vocaloid

Vocaloid:

ah yes

kaylak:

so I'm correct on that part?

Vocaloid:

for c yes

kaylak:

so I'm correct on that part?

kaylak:

so I'm correct?

Vocaloid:

yes.

kaylak:

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kaylak:

for d use trig and do opp/adj

kaylak:

tan

Vocaloid:

d. pythagorean theorem e. once you have the leg lengths, the rate of change wrt t for both legs, take the derivative of the pythagorean theorem wrt t and solve for dc/dt

kaylak:

d=about 2.14?

Vocaloid:

yeah that's what i got too

kaylak:

so do I still need to do opposite over adjacent and then take derivative?

Vocaloid:

a^2 + b^2 = c^2 2a * da/dt + 2b * db/dt = 2c * dc/dt da/dt 0 since the black segment is constant db/dt should be your solution from part b you should have a,b,c from the pythagorean theorem

kaylak:

so 1.125x0=0+2*2=4*0.25=1

Vocaloid:

... what

kaylak:

or wait I still have to take the derivative

kaylak:

trying to plug in all the numbers

Vocaloid:

no, I gave you the derivative, plug in and solve for dc/dt

kaylak:

okay then 2a*da/dt+2b*db/dt=2c*dc/dt 2*0.75=1.125x0=0 2*2=4*0.25=1 2c=4.28 now to figure out what dc/dt is

Vocaloid:

you should already know what c is. since you know what the two legs a and b are you can use the pythagorean theorem to solve for c once everything is plugged in, solve for dc/dt

kaylak:

what I plugged in was the legs and stuff is d distance and t time? I am kinda confused now

kaylak:

@Vocaloid

kaylak:

@Hero

kaylak:

@Vocaloid

Vocaloid:

d means derivative.

kaylak:

am I soling the entre thing wrng then or am I finding the derivative of c?

Vocaloid:

start with the pythagorean theorem a^2 + b^2 = c^2 take the derivative of both sides wrt t to get 2a*da/dt+2b*db/dt=2c*dc/dt plug in everything except dc/dt

Vocaloid:

da/dt is the rate at which side a changes (notice how side a, the black side, is fixed so the da/dt is 0 db/dt is the rate at which side b changes (the green side) which you should have from step C b) a, b, and c are the side lengths therefore you can plug everything in and solve for dc/dt

kaylak:

so 1.125 *0=0

kaylak:

@Vocaloid

Vocaloid:

what are you plugging in? what do these numbers represent?

kaylak:

2x.75

Vocaloid:

that's side b not side a 2a * da/dt should be the black side (2m) * da/dt

kaylak:

so .28

kaylak:

1.125*.25

kaylak:

2*2=4*0=0

Vocaloid:

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Vocaloid:

0 + 2b * rate of change for the green side = 2c * dc/dt

kaylak:

.60?

Vocaloid:

show me the full equation with everything plugged in what is your db/dt value?

kaylak:

.25

Vocaloid:

ok then 2a*da/dt+2b*db/dt=2c*dc/dt becomes 0 + 2(0.75)(0.5) = 2(2.14)dc/dt

kaylak:

4.28

Vocaloid:

don't forget your algebra rules 0 + 2(0.75)(0.5) = 2(2.14)dc/dt becomes 0.75 = 4.28*dc/dt then you'd divide both sides by 4.28 to solve for dc/dt

kaylak:

.18

Vocaloid:

yeah that's what i got too

kaylak:

Which segment, red or green, grows at the fastest speed?

Vocaloid:

uh if our calculations are correct then you just need to compare which is greater, dc/dt or db/dt

kaylak:

so c?

kaylak:

wait no db/dt

Vocaloid:

yeah I think we got db/dt as the greater one so the green one grows a bit faster

kaylak:

At what time will the segments theoretically grow at exactly the same

Vocaloid:

got interrupted by something but 2b(db/dt) = 2c(dc/dt) if db/dt are both equal then b and c must both be equal (which is impossible for a right triangle) so I actually don't think they'll ever grow equally... hm. could be making a logical error here.

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