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Ballery1:

square root function.

Ballery1:

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Ballery1:

We know that we can’t set the function to -4. Cuz that’d make the inroot -1 and u can’t take a square root of -1

Ballery1:

That’s our domain. All real numbers except x can’t equal to -1.

Ferredoxin4:

Yes, x can't be less than 3, not inclusive.

Ballery1:

For the range, y has to be bigger than 0.... I think

Ferredoxin4:

Correct. This is where knowing your function transformations are important. f(x+h)+k

Ballery1:

Wait, can we algebraically figureout the range?

Ferredoxin4:

yes of course. Now in some really complex cases algebra won't be enough, then you'll use limits

Ballery1:

Show me the algebraic way.. don’t worry about the limits here..

Ballery1:

I don’t need to know limits this early in the book

Ferredoxin4:

Well what I did here was I just knew the normal behavior for square root functions and I imagined it in my head. Then I viewed the transformation done here using f(x+h)+k. There is no k value, only an h This means the function was moved left 3 from its parent function. Now in some cases, there may be a vertical/horizontal stretch, and transformations aren't as useful. I'll show you based on the question.

Ballery1:

Nope.. so u just took the normal graph of that function and shifted 3 units to the 3?

Ferredoxin4:

Yes

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Ballery1:

Okie dokie

Ferredoxin4:

Precalculus?

Ballery1:

This is cal 1

Ferredoxin4:

Ah ok

Ballery1:

So I need to memorize the graphs of different functions...I see

Ferredoxin4:

No, just know the parent functions of these: 1. Linear 2. Quadratic 3. Cubic 4. Quartic 5. Exponential 6. Logarithmic 7. Rational 8. Square root 9. Cube Root 10. Floor function 11. Ceiling function 12. Absolute value 13. Sine, Cos, Tan 14. Piece Wise (Only if you know the 13 above, you'll automatically understand piece-wise)

Ballery1:

Okie dokie. Thanks. Let me write everything down..brb

Ferredoxin4:

And for rational, know the behavior for 1/x^n where n is both even AND odd. They're parent functions look a bit different (ie 1/x and 1/x^2, then 1/x^3, etc.)

Ferredoxin4:

And then know your function transformations, then you can figure out anything out of any graph. This includes the special transformations (phase shift) for sine/cos/tan waves

Ballery1:

I used to know the transformation... will memorize that chart by tomorrow.

Ballery1:

brb i need to talk to my roommate for a second. brb :)

Ballery1:

So for the domain, can I say the following?|dw:1560652809343:dw|

Ferredoxin4:

Correct and correct notation

Ballery1:

Wooooooooooooow

BigMac:

Wait, why \(y \ge -3\) for \(f(x) = \sqrt{x+3}\)

BigMac:

Should be \(x\), not \(y\)

Ballery1:

Oops

Ferredoxin4:

I think this time I was the one that read wrong; it should be x

Ferredoxin4:

correct

Ballery1:

Good catch mate.....gimme a hyfy

Ballery1:

And no vertical asymptote?

BigMac:

Also, I don't think I've seen domain of a function \(f\) represented as \( \{ f(x) \} \) before, usually people just write something like \( \mathrm{domain}(f)\) or similar. \( \{ f(x) \} \) looks like a set with only one(?) element, \(f(x)\)

Ferredoxin4:

Eh, I mean I was kinda liberal looking at his notation but I noticed that too. f(x) would go outside, then it would be D:{....} or just interval notation is easier

Ballery1:

Sooo just...|dw:1560653250016:dw|

Ballery1:

I think the more immediate question is....r there NY VERTICAL asymptote?no right?

Ballery1:

Any*

BigMac:

Personally I'd just write \( \mathrm{domain}(f) = \{ x \in\mathbb{R} : x \ge -3\} \) because \( \{ f \} \) looks like a set with the function \(f\) as its element. Like if \(f(x) = \sqrt{x+3}, g(x) = \sqrt{x-3}, h(x) = 5\sqrt{x}\), then the set \( \{ f, g, h\} \) is a set of functions whose parent function is the square root function. There are no vertical asymptotes.

Ballery1:

Okie dokie

Ballery1:

Tomorrow we’ll start working on functions...like adding subtracting multiplying and dividing the functions...should be lit tho

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