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TheConMan:

Someone help me find the domain and range of rational function.

TheConMan:

Find the domain and range of the following ratuinal function. \[F(x) = \frac{ 2 }{ x^2+1 }\]

TheConMan:

I know i can’t set the denominator equal to 0 and solve for x in this case. What do i need to do to find the vertical asymptote?

TheConMan:

@Hero

Hero:

You still have to set the denominator equal to zero and solve for x because you have to prove that there is no vertical asymptote.

TheConMan:

Let me draw and u evaluate

TheConMan:

Wait, wouldn’t that give me zeros aka the two Points where the graph touches the x-axis?

Hero:

Nope, it shouldn't. You should get imaginary numbers instead.

Hero:

Imaginary numbers can't exist on a real number line.

TheConMan:

How do i know whether i’ll Get real numbers or imaginary?

Hero:

Solve this for \(x\): \(x^2 + 1 = 0\)

TheConMan:

I can’t, it’s a quadratic equation .... wait one second. Dad’s calling ...terribly sorry for the pause. Brb i promise.

Hero:

Quadratic Equations can be solved for \(x\).

TheConMan:

Sorry for the delay. Let me try to factor the quadratic equation.

TheConMan:

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TheConMan:

What’s the rule when the denominator is not factorable?

Hero:

You don't try to factor the denominator. You just set it equal to zero and solve for \(x\). There's no need to factor in this case

TheConMan:

Damn, so does that mean I did it wrong? Ok let me set it equal to zero and see.

Hero:

Just the denominator of course

TheConMan:

While I set he denominator to zero, do I need to use the quadratic equation?

Hero:

That's not necessary either.

TheConMan:

Ok let me draw first and we’ll go from there...

TheConMan:

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TheConMan:

Error = imaginary number right?

Hero:

Well, you see, you can definitely take it a few steps further. Let me show you $$\begin{aligned} x^{2} & =-1\\ \sqrt{x^{2}} & =\sqrt{-1}\\ |x| & =i\\ x & =\pm i \end{aligned}$$

TheConMan:

Oh I didn’t know you could do that

Hero:

Here we've shown that \(x\) is clearly an imaginary number which does not exist on the real number plane.

Hero:

When the denominator is set to zero that is...

Hero:

Otherwise, there are no restrictions on \(x\)

TheConMan:

Hero, I don’t need to know much about imaginary numbers bro. I’m just looking for domain and range of the rational function. I just wanted to know if there are any restrictions in the domain or range that i need to include in the domain and range. Also, when the denominator resolves to be *imaginary number* that means there are no restrictions/vertical asymptotes?

Hero:

Correct. If you set the denominator equal to zero and solve for x and get an imaginary number as the result, then that means no vertical asymptote exists for the rational function.

Hero:

To find the range, find \(f^{-1}(x)\). In other words find the inverse of the function

TheConMan:

Can you please do me a favour? Can you please find me a sheet that shows all the rules related to finding the vertical and horizontal asymptotes of rational functions?

Hero:

There aren't really that much rules. To find the vertical asymptote, set the denominator equal to zero, then solve for the variable. To find the range, find the inverse of the function. The domain of the inverse of \(f\) is the range of \(f\).

Hero:

Oh sorry, you wanted horizontal asymptote. Hang on...

Hero:

One second let me fix a typo on that.

Hero:

If the DEGREE of the leading terms of both the numerator and denominator are equal, then you have to consider the long range behavior. In the case, in the long term, the leading terms will dominate and the horizontal asymptote will approach the leading coefficient of the numerator over the leading coefficient of the denominator

Hero:

If the DEGREE of the leading term of the numerator is SMALLER than the DEGREE of the leading term in the denominator, then the horizontal asymptote will be y=0

Hero:

Typing too fast sorry. Had to fix another typo.

Hero:

If the DEGREE of the leading term of the numerator is BIGGER than the DEGREE of the leading term in the denominator, then you have to perform long division to find the asymptote.

Hero:

The asymptote will be the quotient of the divison

Hero:

And that's it

TheConMan:

I thought when the numberator and the denominator are equal, you divide the leading terms out. What do you mean by *you have to consider long division?*

Hero:

You're mixing things up.

Hero:

I mentioned the coefficients of the leading terms. Yes the variables will divide out leaving the coefficients.

Hero:

For example....

Hero:

\(f(x) = \dfrac{2x^2}{3x^2}\) The long term behavior of \(f(x)\) is that as \(x \to \infty\) f(x) approaches \(\dfrac{2}{3}\)

Hero:

Which is the horizontal asymptote

TheConMan:

Yes that’s right. And that’s how i find the horizontal asymptote

TheConMan:

Bro, I appreciate your work but can you please find me a picture that i can save on my ipad?

TheConMan:

With all the rules to find the vertical and horizontal asymptotes of rational functions thanks

Hero:

I just gave them to you. You can save what is above.

TheConMan:

It’s hard to save that as a picture. It’s gonna take like 4 screenshots to capture everything

Hero:

I got you. Hang on

TheConMan:

Thanks bro. Let’s move on to finding the horizontal asymptotes of that function.

Hero:

If the DEGREE of the leading terms of both the numerator and denominator are equal, then you have to consider the long range behavior. In the case, in the long term, the leading terms will dominate and the horizontal asymptote will approach the leading coefficient of the numerator over the leading coefficient of the denominator If the DEGREE of the leading term of the numerator is SMALLER than the DEGREE of the leading term in the denominator, then the horizontal asymptote will be y=0 If the DEGREE of the leading term of the numerator is BIGGER than the DEGREE of the leading term in the denominator, then you have to perform long division to find the asymptote.

TheConMan:

got it. Let’s find the inverse of the function now.

TheConMan:

Wait, you didn’t including the *setting the denominator to x* to find the horizontal asymptote

TheConMan:

...of a quadratic function.

Hero:

You lost me there. I explained the three cases for finding the horizontal asymptote

Hero:

"Setting the denominator equal to Zero and solving for x" applies when finding the vertical asymptote.

TheConMan:

Omg sorry /.-

TheConMan:

Let’s figure out the inverse of that function and finish this question.

TheConMan:

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Hero:

To find the inverse, First replace \(f(x)\) with \(y\)

TheConMan:

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Hero:

Next swap the \(x\)'s and \(y\)'s

TheConMan:

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Hero:

Okay multiply both sides by the denominator

TheConMan:

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TheConMan:

What do i do next?

Hero:

Simplify the RHS by cancelling

Hero:

RHS = Right Hand Side of the equation

TheConMan:

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Hero:

Now divide both sides by \(x\)

TheConMan:

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Hero:

Subtract 1 from both sides. By now you should be able to figure out what we are actually doing.

TheConMan:

So we basically switched the variables and solved for y? Is that what we did

Hero:

Yes, we're solving for \(y\). Finish doing so

TheConMan:

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Hero:

Okay, replace the 1 with x/x

TheConMan:

Sorry I didn’t get what x/x mean

Hero:

x over x

TheConMan:

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Hero:

Combine the fractions under the root

TheConMan:

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Hero:

Do you know how to combine fractions?

TheConMan:

Nope

Hero:

\(\dfrac{a}{b} + \dfrac{c}{b} = \dfrac{a + c}{b}\)

TheConMan:

Take a common denominator

TheConMan:

Omg lol

TheConMan:

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TheConMan:

What do i do next?

Hero:

Find the domain of \(x\)

TheConMan:

I thought we were looking for the range

Hero:

We are. Remember, I said earlier that the domain of the inverse is the range of the original function.

TheConMan:

We had all real numbers for domain

Hero:

That was for the original function. We need the domain of the inverse now

TheConMan:

Jesus :/ how do we get that?

Hero:

Well, first do you notice any restrictions on the domain?

TheConMan:

Original function? Nope

Hero:

On the domain of the INVERSE. We're focused on the inverse right now my friend.

Hero:

You spent all that work and time finding the inverse. Now we will deal with that only for a bit

TheConMan:

Oh my bad...yes I do see a restriction

Hero:

How many restrictions do you see?

TheConMan:

I can’t plug-in 2 cuz that’d make the sq root undef

TheConMan:

I can’t plug-in any value less than 2...I think

TheConMan:

Meaning whatever value i plug-in has to be greater than 2

Hero:

Actually, here's the way you should see it. There's an \(x\) in the denominator of the fraction so we know \(x \ne 0\)

TheConMan:

Yes that too

Hero:

And actually \(x\) can equal 2. We just can't have any values greater than 2

Hero:

What happens if \(x > 2\)?

TheConMan:

It becomes negative in the numerator and that’s a no no to find the sq root

Hero:

The square root can't be negative otherwise we get imaginary numbers. So we know that \(x\ne 0\) and \(x \ngeq 2\)

Hero:

So what is the domain of the inverse here?

TheConMan:

All real numbers except x can’t be 0 ad 2

Hero:

Nope

Hero:

Can x be less than zero?

Hero:

Can x be greater than 2?

TheConMan:

No fr both

Hero:

Okay, so what is the domain?

TheConMan:

X has to be greater than 0 and x has to be greater than 2

Hero:

Negative. x cannot be greater than 2. Why don't you try evaluating a number greater than 2 and see what happens.

TheConMan:

It’ll make the numerator negative and ultimately the everything in the sq root

Hero:

Okay, so last try. What is the domain of the inverse?

TheConMan:

Let me think...one second

TheConMan:

X has to be less than 2, and x can’t be equal to 0

Hero:

Which means the domain of the inverse exists on what interval?

Hero:

BTW, I'll say it again, \(x\) can be 2

TheConMan:

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TheConMan:

I meant less than or equal to 2

Hero:

If you just say \(x \le 2\) then you're also including negative numbers which we already said are not possible here. The domain of the inverse is \(0 < x \le 2\)

TheConMan:

😮 I forgot about that..yeah

TheConMan:

I was just focusing on 2 there

Hero:

This is what the graph looks like: https://www.geogebra.org/classic/mnzmgbqx

TheConMan:

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Hero:

Wait hang on. I just realized that for the original function, you have to write it as \(0 < f(x) \le 2\) and no you cannot write it as you wrote it.

TheConMan:

Why fx?

Hero:

Because the range is the set of y values

TheConMan:

Cuz it’s the domain of the original function?

TheConMan:

I meant range

Hero:

Exactly

TheConMan:

Why’s there an x

Hero:

I corrected that by writing f(x) instead. \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Hero Wait hang on. I just realized that for the original function, you have to write it as \(0 < f(x) \le 2\) and no you cannot write it as you wrote it. \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\)

Hero:

Did you not see that?

Hero:

It's easy to confuse one thing with the other because we were talking about the domain of the inverse being the range of the original function. You have to concentrate to keep up with the variables that differentiate both sets.

Hero:

Sometimes I slip up and say one thing when I mean the other. It's very easy to slip up in this case.

Hero:

NO.

Hero:

Let me delete the wrong stuff so you're no longer confused.

Hero:

So the RANGE of the original function is \(0 < f(x) \le 2\)

Hero:

Okay?

TheConMan:

Yes thanks for your help

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