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TheConMan:

Find the domain and range of the following function.

TheConMan:

\[F(x) = \frac{ 1 }{ (7-x)(x^2-1) }\]

dude:

For domain, the denominator cannot equal 0 So do \((7-x) = 0\) and \((x^2-1)=0\) This will tell you what cannot be part of the domain

TheConMan:

I see what you did. Let me try brb

dude:

If you need help solving for x, ask

TheConMan:

@hero i need his help. He’s the best. No offence tho :)

Ferredoxin4:

So let me first ask you: what is the domain & range? and what is a discontinuity?

Ferredoxin4:

It's best that you understand the significance of what you're doing so then you can attack any question in any method and see the purpose behind it

TheConMan:

Domain the is relationship between independent variables and dependent variables. Domain shows if there’s a point y on the graph for every x value

Ferredoxin4:

in layman's, it's just the set of x values in a function. range is the set of y values, which are dependent on the domain values.

TheConMan:

Ok now how do we get the domain and range of that function?

TheConMan:

Why can’t we expand the denominator and find the zeros?

Ferredoxin4:

It's good to always know the end behavior of various functions (trig, trig inverse, power, exponential, etc) so you can visualize it in your mind how you should approach. For now, we can find the domain. Let's start with assuming that x exists for all real values. Now, we have to look for discontinuities. Do you know what is a discontinuity, and what discontinuity is likely in this function?

TheConMan:

Yes vertical and horizontal asymptotes where the curve of the graph approaches the restriction/asymptotes but never quite intersects

Ferredoxin4:

Yeah. So the vertical asymptote is a restriction on the domain, and the horizontal is a restriction on the range, correct?

TheConMan:

Bro, let’s speed this up, i have like 9 more freaky questions like these

TheConMan:

Yes, i know those things.

Ferredoxin4:

okay haha. So to find the vertical asymptote set the denominator to 0 and solve for x using the zero product property.

Ferredoxin4:

Did you get that?

TheConMan:

Yes sir, let me draw ...

TheConMan:

Don’t give me hints. Let me draw first

Ferredoxin4:

Sure sure. No need to draw/graph though, but if it helps you visualize, then it's great.

TheConMan:

Shoot, my pencil is out of juice. One second, let me charge it. Thanks

TheConMan:

I mean draw out the answer

Ferredoxin4:

ohhh. yeah ok

TheConMan:

|dw:1567558753889:dw|

Ferredoxin4:

check your second equation again. You brought the -1 over but forgot to change the sign.

Ferredoxin4:

x^2 - 1 = 0 +1 +1 x^2 = 1 so...

TheConMan:

|dw:1567558931188:dw|

Ferredoxin4:

Close. is that the only root of √1 ?

TheConMan:

So my pen was freaking out while i was drawing. Sorry

TheConMan:

|dw:1567559020019:dw|

TheConMan:

What do i do next?

Ferredoxin4:

There we go. So you got x=7, -1, and 1. So those are your vertical asymptotes

TheConMan:

That’s it? :O

Ferredoxin4:

Yeah. So your domain is X exists for all real numbers, x≠7, -1, 1.

TheConMan:

Alright, let’s find the horizontal asymptotes now :)

Ferredoxin4:

Now for your range, recall that the horizontal asymptote is a restriction on the range. So to find the horizontal asymptote, do you know the rules?

TheConMan:

Sorry bro, we have a thunderstorm here, it knocked out lights out for a bit. But yeah, i can’t recall the rule tho. Plz hep

TheConMan:

Omg i actually do

Ferredoxin4:

is it hurricane dorian? rules: 1. if the degree of the num < degree of denom, then y=0 is the horizontal asym. 2. if degree of num > degree of denom, it is a oblique asymptote (no horizontal, use synthetic devision to find it) 3. if degree of num = degree of denom, divide leading coefficients.

TheConMan:

If the leading degrees are equal, you divide leading coefficients Second rule is, if the degree in the numerator is bigger than the degree in the denominator, there’s no horizontal asy Finally, if the degree in the denominator is bigger than the numerator, the horizontal asym is y=0

Ferredoxin4:

yeah

TheConMan:

Do you really think i’d Be sitting here if we had hurricane Dorian ripping through our house? Lol

Ferredoxin4:

Yeah I was being sarcastic lmao but the Fla side of it isn't bad

TheConMan:

Ok so we have a 1/ (7-x)(x^2-1). The degree in the denominator is bigger than numerators...so horizontal asym is y = 0

Ferredoxin4:

yeah that's it

TheConMan:

Really? Damn, that was easy lol

TheConMan:

Let me write everything down...brb thanks tho :)

Ferredoxin4:

np

TheConMan:

Wait, hold on, why didn’t i get y=0 in the last question tho. The last question was y = 2/x^2+1

Ferredoxin4:

Well it should be y=0. You could prove it by plugging in the limit of x approaching to positive/negative infinity.

TheConMan:

Ok so when i try to find the vertical asymptote, i got imaginary number right.

Ferredoxin4:

Yeah. So that just means that there is no vertical asymptote.

Ferredoxin4:

If you solve for a vertical asymptote and you end with a complex solution, it means that there is no vertical asymptote. You could check by graphing or using limits.

TheConMan:

Then i try to find the horizontal asymptote, but it turned out i had to find the inverse of that function since the domain of the inverse is the range of the original function. So i have rewrite the equation in terms of x then isolated for y again and then simplified and did a combine fractioning. Then i tried to see what x values would make the sq root undef...and lastly, wrote the domain of the inverse function in terms of range of the original function....it was a pain.. x.x

Ferredoxin4:

Yeah there was no need for that

TheConMan:

You can later go in my profile and see the last question. It’s pretty long tho.

TheConMan:

Ok let me finish this and i’ll Be right back :) thanks

Ferredoxin4:

np

TheConMan:

What’s the difference when you write 1^0 and 1^1? They both equate to be 1 anyway.

Ferredoxin4:

That's something to ask the international congress of mathematicians because powers to 0 and 1 are commonly debated. Since the base is 1 they just somehow equate to the same. There's no difference i suppose other than the exponent itself

TheConMan:

Cuz the thing is, i’m Trying to count the power numerator and the denominator and idk what to do there since the denominator is in parentheses

Ferredoxin4:

Just compare the degrees, there's no reason to go any further than that. but what question is it?

TheConMan:

Same question...lol

Ferredoxin4:

the one we were just on? just always consider the exponent to the first power, because if it were any other whole number, you'd consider it the same.

TheConMan:

Got it

TheConMan:

So this is the range i got. |dw:1567562455324:dw|

Ferredoxin4:

yeah correct

TheConMan:

K next question. The aim is to find the domain and range of the following function. \[F(x) = \sqrt{x+3}\]

TheConMan:

What do you call this type of functions again?

Ferredoxin4:

Square root functions

TheConMan:

I see. Ok so how do we go about finding the domain?

TheConMan:

We know that i can’t plugin any negative values into the sq root function.

Ferredoxin4:

So this is why I mentioned it's important to know very well the behavior of several functions. So here, the part under the radicand must be greater than or equal to 0, as you know. There can't be any complex things graphed on a cartesian plane. So set the part inside the radicand to ≤0, solve for x. You'll get your domain.

TheConMan:

We also know that w/e number we plugin, must not make the resultant integer negative.

Ferredoxin4:

Square root functions have lower bound, no upper bound, and there is no sign of vertical transformation, so you can already infer the range from that.

TheConMan:

I think the domain is all real numbers except, x>0

TheConMan:

Actually wait... omg /.- i’m So stupiff

Ferredoxin4:

Range* and it's x≥0

TheConMan:

All real numbers except, x has to be equal to or greater than 3

Ferredoxin4:

Right

TheConMan:

Can you please use simple math language, i’m Having hard time trying to understand what you’re trying to say about the range of the root func

TheConMan:

\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Ferredoxin4 Square root functions have lower bound, no upper bound, and there is no sign of vertical transformation, so you can already infer the range from that. \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) Like i dont get this lol

Ferredoxin4:

ok yeah I got you. look at this example

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Ferredoxin4:

maybe @hero can take over

TheConMan:

Is the last graph *bounded both above and below*?

Ferredoxin4:

yeah

TheConMan:

I see. Thanks bro. Really appreacted your help :)

Hero:

Great job explaining @Ferredoxin4

Ferredoxin4:

Thank you (:

TheConMan:

How do i find the range of the root function again?

TheConMan:

Can someone hep?

TheConMan:

Is there a method to finding the range of the root func?

akshay:

Ferredoxin explained it already, the function is bounded in the bottom. Naturally the range of the square root function is y≥0

akshay:

The method is to use limits. Otherwise know the behavior of those functions like Ferredoxin said and apply the transformations

TheConMan:

K got it. Thanks.

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