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Ballery1:

math help plz

Ballery1:

solve the given equation for *X* if possible. |dw:1568318567215:dw|

Ballery1:

@dude

Ballery1:

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mhchen:

|dw:1568320462766:dw| You didn't take the natural log of both sides. You only split the log(5x) into log(5) + log(x)

Ballery1:

ok wait, let me think what to do next...

Ballery1:

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Ballery1:

am i on the right track?

Ballery1:

i need a hint

Ballery1:

it's my powernap time...plz hurry up i can't keep my eyes open :/ *~* sorry

Ballery1:

do i cancel out the e and ln? from both 5 and x?

mhchen:

you're on the right track

mhchen:

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Ballery1:

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Ballery1:

is this it?

mhchen:

No, you can't simplify logs that way. Only this way: \[\log_{e}(e)=1\]

Ballery1:

awwww :/ wait..let me think

Ballery1:

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Ballery1:

is this it?

Ballery1:

am i wrong or am i wrong ?

mhchen:

lol \[e^{\ln x} = x\]

Ballery1:

yes i knw that .

Ballery1:

that e and ln cancel out which equates to x

mhchen:

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Ballery1:

oh my gook..

Ballery1:

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Ballery1:

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Ballery1:

this question is going to be the end of me tbh ...*~*

Ballery1:

i'm getting depression and anxiety just by looking at this thing...

Ballery1:

how wrong am i ?

Ballery1:

can you do this question for me? i have to go take a powernap... i'll be back at around 6pm. Thanks lovely :)

mhchen:

|dw:1568321809874:dw| There's 1 more step from here and you're done.\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted Just use this formula: \[e^{\ln x} = x\]

Ballery1:

the steps aren't enough for me tbh... can you expand the steps from e(lnx) = e(2-ln5). Because i really wanna see how you eln got moved and became a e^2 on the right side

Ballery1:

honestly it has made me more confused than ....idk i have so many question...

mhchen:

\[e^{\ln x} = e^{2- \ln 5}\] \[x = e^{2 - ln 5}\] \[x = \frac{e^{2}}{e^{ln 5}} \] \[x = \frac{e^{2}}{5} \]

mhchen:

I only used these 2 formulas: \[e^{\ln x} = x\] \[e^{a-b} = \frac{e^{a}}{e^{b}}\]

Ballery1:

how did ln x and 2-ln5 become power all of a sudden???

Ballery1:

wait, let me draw, i need to show you where exactly things got confuzzled for me

JSVSL7:

Hey dude, I suggest that before you dive into questions, learn and master the properties of logarithms and natural logs.

JSVSL7:

There are like 10 or more principles that you need to know in order to do any logarithmic relation based question. See those first and understand them well

JSVSL7:

And using those rules you could derive more which is helpful. Once you understand those, then do these problems and they'll make sense.

mhchen:

If \[a = b\] then \[e^{a} = e^{b}\]

Ballery1:

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JSVSL7:

Yes, he raised them based on the property he showed you above. That's why you need to learn properties and rules of log and ln before attempting these questions

Ballery1:

bro, i know that property..chill. i wanna know why did he raise that e for?

Ballery1:

to cancel something out or to condense something?

mhchen:

Yeah. \[e^{\ln x} = x\]

Ballery1:

i just wished he physically drew the next step once he raised both sides. all i see is e^2???

Ballery1:

yes i know that law too

mhchen:

So starting from here: \[ln x = 2 - ln 5\] I raise both sides to the power of e: \[e^{\ln x} = e^{2- \ln 5}\] The left side becomes x: \[x = e^{2 - ln 5}\] The right side becomes a fraction: \[x = \frac{e^{2}}{e^{ln 5}} \] The bottom of the fraction simplifies to 5: \[x = \frac{e^{2}}{5} \]

Ballery1:

the only thing that confuses me is this..let me draw plz

Ballery1:

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Ballery1:

can you give me a similar example

Ballery1:

wait hold on.... did those cancel out? /.-

Ballery1:

i'm so freakin stupit... i see what you did now...

mhchen:

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mhchen:

okay lol

Ballery1:

wait i think i got it... i need to go pee... sorry brb

mhchen:

\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @mhchen If \[a = b\] then \[e^{a} = e^{b}\] \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) Actually I'm not sure if this is always true. If anyone can come up with an example that disproves it, tell me.

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