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Ballery1:

need math help

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Ballery1:

i know i'm wrong. give me some time to fix the questioin..

Ballery1:

don't fix my mistake.. i wanna do it myself. gimme 5 minutes to think

Hero:

Good luck

Ballery1:

am i close to the right answer/solution tho?

Hero:

Yes, you're almost there. There's just something you may not figure out on your own unless it is explained.

Hero:

You did make a mistake, but its more conceptual than mathematical.

Ballery1:

k i'm gonna do the problem and u gimme hints

Hero:

There's no need to re-do the problem. It won't fix the problem unless it is explained.

Hero:

The mistake is made at the very end.

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Ballery1:

oh :O

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Hero:

First how do you say 0.2 using words?

Ballery1:

zero point two?

Hero:

If you say zero point two that is incorrect.

Ballery1:

or 2/10?

Hero:

Two-tenths is correct.

Hero:

So you need to go back to the last known correct step: \(0.2x = \ln(2)\)

Hero:

Furthermore, you need to start using parentheses correctly

Ballery1:

ok we pick up from there ^^

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Hero:

If you have \(ax = \ln(b)\) and you divide both sides by \(a\) the answer becomes \(x = \dfrac{1}{a}\ln(b)\) But you should convert \(a\) to a fraction first. Also its mathematically impossible to do what you've done since the 2 needs to be applied to the natural log first.

Hero:

I don't want to confuse you too much though.

Ballery1:

plz dont

Hero:

Convert 0.2 to a fraction first.

Hero:

That will help you

Hero:

Then reduce the fraction

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Hero:

Yes, now reduce the fraction

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Ballery1:

multiply?

Hero:

Now you have your \(ax = \ln(b)\)

Hero:

Multiply both sides by what?

Ballery1:

5

Hero:

Correct.

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Hero:

Very good. But it is mathematically correct to write \(x = 5 \ln(2)\)

Ballery1:

oh oops

Hero:

The simplest number goes to the left. 5 is simpler than \(\ln(2)\)

Hero:

Or the simplest "factor" goes to the left

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Hero:

Very good.

Ballery1:

thats it?

Ballery1:

thanks hero. :)

Hero:

That was all.

Hero:

Avoid working with decimals as much as possible.

Hero:

Another way you could have done it was this:

Ballery1:

i'll remember to convert decimals to fractions from here on.

Hero:

\(0.2x = \ln(2)\) Multiply both sides by 10 to get rid of decimal: \(2x = 10\ln(2)\) Divide both sides by 2: \(x = \dfrac{10}{2}\ln(2)\) Simplify: \(x = 5\ln(2)\)

Hero:

I prefer to do it this way most of the time.

Hero:

But it helps to understand what 0.2 is. It's not "point two" as you discovered.

Ballery1:

i see. i'll make sure to copy this version of the solution in my notebook as well. Thanks a lot hero. Bless you bro.

Hero:

You're welcome

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