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Ballery1:

Marginal Revenue Functions Question...

Ballery1:

Management of a company manufacturing small refrigerators determines that the daily total cost of producing *x* units is given by \[C(x) = 0.0002x^3 - 0.06x^2 + 120x +3000\] dollars, where \[0\le x \le 300\] A) Find the marginal cost of function \[C’(x)\]. Ive done this part already B) Find the intervals on which the functions c’x) is increasing and those on which it is decreasing. Interpret your results.

Ballery1:

Wait. I think i took the derivative wrong.... brb

Ballery1:

@Narad

Ballery1:

Those zeros in the original equation seem suspicious....

Ballery1:

How do i do the second part of the problem again ?

Ballery1:

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Ballery1:

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Ballery1:

How do i figure out the intervals where c’(x) is increasing and decreasing???

Narad:

Check the first term of the derivative of \[C(x)\] and make a variation table of x, C'(x) and C(x)

Ballery1:

What values do i plugin for the x in the table tho?

Ballery1:

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Hero:

I don't see anything wrong with it

Ballery1:

Like that?

Ballery1:

Ok sorry. Let’s solve for the second part of the question

Hero:

It's helpful to know how to convert in case you do need it though.

Hero:

But basically all you need to do is set \(C'(x)\) = 0 and solve for \(x\)

Ballery1:

What?? That;s it?

Hero:

That will give you the points at which the slope of \(C(x)\) are zero.

Ballery1:

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Hero:

Wait don't do that

Ballery1:

Oh ok :/

Ballery1:

Let me try another way

Hero:

Instead multiply both sides by 10000

Ballery1:

I don’t wanna use that method, it confuses me :/

Ballery1:

U wanna multiply both sides because of that 0.0006???

Hero:

If you multiply both sides by 10,000, you get: \(6x^2 + 120000x + 1200000 = 0\)

Hero:

Then you can divide both sides by \(6\)

Hero:

Oops middle term is neg

Ballery1:

No no no no no i don’t wanna do it like that... it confuses me.... let’s do it the conventional way plz

Hero:

\(6x^2 + 120000x + 1200000 = 0\) \(x^2 + 20000x + 200000 = 0\)

Hero:

It's easier to apply the quadratic formula if you have it in this form

Hero:

\(x = \dfrac{-20000 \pm \sqrt{20000^2 - 4(200000)}}{2}\)

Ballery1:

I get it but that’s why i have a calculator for... plz don’t.....*~* plz let’s use the simpler method :/

Ballery1:

Your hurting my math hero

Hero:

This to me IS the simpler method

Hero:

But even better to just complete the square

Hero:

You do it however you want. Long as it is right. But for me, I like to avoid decimals as much as possible.

Ballery1:

I’dn’t know what number to multiply the decimals in the original equation and that’ll throw me off the time time i try to apply your method

Hero:

Actually I keep forgetting that darn middle term is supposed to be negative

Hero:

\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Hero \(x = \dfrac{20000 \pm \sqrt{20000^2 - 4(200000)}}{2}\) \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\)

Hero:

You don't have to do it the way that I say it. There's another way to do it

Hero:

Move the decimal point four places to the right for each term

Hero:

You can't do that until after you set \(C'(x) = 0\)

Hero:

All you want is for the \(a\) value in the leading term to be an integer

Ballery1:

K let’s try your way...wait let me draw real quick :) |dw:1569654027130:dw|

Hero:

If you prefer to work with decimals go for it. I avoid them at all costs unless absolutely necessary.

Hero:

The middle term is 120000x

Hero:

-120000x

Hero:

Moving the decimal point four places to the right is what I actually do in reality. I only said multiply both sides by 10,000 because I'm helping you to understand the correct mathematical equivalent of shifting the decimal places.

Ballery1:

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Hero:

You still forgot the x just like I forget negatives sometimes.

Hero:

By the way you're supposed to set those expressions equal to \(x\)

Hero:

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Ballery1:

My calculator can’t take in that many zeros... and i can’t solve it by calculator anymore..

Hero:

If i were you, I would have divided both sides by six before applying the quadratic formula

Hero:

You should have gotten \(x^2 - 20000x + 200000 = 0\)

Ballery1:

And then apply the quadratic formula?

Hero:

Correct.

Ballery1:

My calculator still wouldn’t have been able to compute so many zeros...

Hero:

You can also use exponents

Ballery1:

Had we done it the conventional way...i’d Have finish my homework by now lol

Hero:

\(x^2 + 2(10^4)x + 2(10^5)= 0\)

Hero:

You're learning new methods so it will take slightly longer.

Hero:

Once you're used to it, then you do it quicker

Hero:

Try the exponents on your calculator and see what happens

Hero:

You may want to adjust your calculator to more fixed decimals. Enable it to round up to six decimal places

Ballery1:

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Ballery1:

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Hero:

Yeah that's wrong

Ballery1:

That 4 X 2?

Hero:

I don't know how you went from \(2(10^4)\) to just \(2^4\)

Ballery1:

It’s 3 am here lol

Ballery1:

I’m doing the question old fashion way for now...

Hero:

I just wanted to see if using exponents would break your calculator

Hero:

I'd be surprised if it did

Ballery1:

Ok so.. once i have the x values...that would be my maximum right??? And what about where the function is decreasing?

Hero:

You get plus AND minus values

Ballery1:

So the question is *find the intervals where C’(x) is increasing and decreasing....interpret your results

Hero:

Yes, let me explain

Hero:

You have two values \(x_1\) and \(x_2\)

Hero:

One of the values will be less than the other

Ballery1:

Mhm

Hero:

But both values represent where the slope of \(C'(x)\) is zero

Hero:

Let's say \((x_1, f(x_1)\) is the lower point and \((x_2, f(x_2)\) is the higher point

Ballery1:

Mhm

Hero:

Then the function is increasing on the interval \((x_1, x_2)\)

Hero:

And decreasing on \((-\infty, x_1)\) and \((x_2, \infty)\)

Hero:

I'm just speaking hypothetically. I haven't investigated what is actually happening with the function.

Ballery1:

Okie

Hero:

But what I'm trying to show you is all you have to do is figure out which point is lower and which point is higher

Hero:

And then you can figure things out from there

Ballery1:

I see

Hero:

Actually, I realize the function is quadratic

Hero:

So there may only be one point where the function is lower or higher

Ballery1:

Yes

Hero:

Since \(a\) is positive, the function will be concave up meaning to the left of the point the function will be decreasing. To the right of the point, the function will be increasing

Ballery1:

Yes

Hero:

The only thing left for you to do now is figure out the intervals where the function is increasing and decreasing

Ballery1:

Wait, what does *A* resemble in your last statement ?

Hero:

\(ax^2 + bx + c\)

Ballery1:

Oh icy now

Ballery1:

Thanks a lot hero. I really appreciated your help bro. Thanks :)

Hero:

You're welcome

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