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Razor:

For the function 𝑦𝑦 = −2𝑥𝑥2 + 4𝑥𝑥 + 1, what are the coordinates of the vertex? Is it a maximum or minimum point? Hint: use the vertex/axis of symmetry formula for 𝑥𝑥. Show all work algebraically to earn full credit and use Desmos only to check your answer.

Razor:

y=2x^2+4x+1 **

Macho14:

One moment, I got it.

jhonyy9:

do you know this : if f(x) = ax^2 +bx +c so the vertex is (-b/2a , f(-b/2a) )

Macho14:

That is not right jhonyy

Macho14:

The vertex is (-1, -1)

Macho14:

It is a minimum value @Razor

Razor:

\[f(x) = ax^2+bx + c \] ?

Macho14:

So here, let me write this all down: Vertex is at (-1, -1), and it is a minimum point.

Macho14:

That is standard form, what am I supposed to do with it?

Razor:

Uhm, I'm supposed to have all the steps. Like how did you get to (-1,-1) ?

jhonyy9:

using my posted formula you get these value too

Razor:

^

Macho14:

OOOOOOOOOH, ok

Macho14:

hahaha, I am used to doing math in my head

Macho14:

Srry about that

Razor:

so do I just have to add the following equation I was given? Or graph it

Macho14:

Try graphing it first.

Macho14:

I will get the steps in a moment

jhonyy9:

@Razor you need learn this formula posted above

Macho14:

Yes, use johnyy's formula.

jhonyy9:

using this formula you can calcule the vertex of a quadratic

jhonyy9:

and how you decide that is minim or maxim ? just in this case bc. the vertex is (-1,-1) so give the value of 0 to x and so in this way for f(0) what value will get ?

Razor:

I'm really not sure I'm sorry. Math is my nemesis

Macho14:

You can determine which is the maxim or minim based on the shape of the graph. For example: A graph in a "u" shape (like the one in this problem) The vertex is the point where it rounds at and changes direction. Since it is an up u, it would be a minimum, because of how low it is on the graph. Rather than if we had an "n" shape, where the vertex would be the highest, making it a maxim... Hope this helped!

darkknight:

Depends on the value of a if a >0 then minimum cuz opens up if a <0 then opens down or maximum

jhonyy9:

exactly @darkknight CONGRATS !!!

darkknight:

I am the darkknight

Macho14:

Yeah, that's my simplified explanation XD

Macho14:

@Razor , if you need your work shown: https://symbolab.com it will get all the work you need, because it is step by step calculator.

Razor:

Yeah so if the line is positive it's a minimum, someone told me if it was negative it'd still be minimum

Razor:

Unless it was a typo then it'd be maximum

Razor:

Okay, I think I got it. abc. a = 2, b = 4 and c = 1

Razor:

Which was super obvious but I didn't know if I was right or not until I look at it

darkknight:

so a is -2, which means that is opens down and it is a maximum

Razor:

Does it determine if it's maximum or minimum by "a" and not the rest of the variables?

darkknight:

yes,

Macho14:

Hmm. I would look this up. I don't remember learning that.

Razor:

\[x _{v} =-\frac{ 4 }{ 2*2} \]

Razor:

Like that and then simplify

Macho14:

Yes, good job

Razor:

Sweet, I think I got it from here. Thanks, guys. Sorry for dragging that out longer than it needed to be

Macho14:

No worries! I enjoy helping. And doing nerdy problems HAHAHA

Razor:

XD

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