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darkknight:

precalc

darkknight:

darkknight:

This is my work.

darkknight:

So my precalc teacher told me that the formula for sinusoidal parametrics are \[a(\sin((2\pi/b(t-Cx))+d, a(\sin((2\pi/b(t-Cy))+d\] Where a is radius b is the amount of time it takes for 1 rotation d = how far center is from x-axis Cx = (-initial position +pi/2) (1/(2pi/b)) Cy = (-initial position) (1/(2pi/b))

darkknight:

@dude, @hero, @Hero @Vocaloid?

darkknight:

Got no clue where i messed up

darkknight:

@InsatiableSuffering

kittybasil:

@hartnn @imqwerty 💀

darkknight:

wait I think i may have gotten it

darkknight:

nah, can't catch it yet. Ill redo the problem and tell u guys if i find anything

darkknight:

Hold on, I got a different answer. Will show once I confirm it

darkknight:

uhh, now I got this for my coordinates: −26.21629336, −24.79534305

darkknight:

New show my work:

darkknight:

this is wrong too. Because according to the coordinates. the distance from the origin should be 29, not the 36 i am getting

imqwerty:

Did you take the origin as the center of the merry go round?

darkknight:

Yes,

darkknight:

Ya think we have to do otherwise @imqwerty ?

imqwerty:

Nope, since they haven't specified any origin, it's alright to consider the center of the wheel as the origin.

imqwerty:

How did you calculate the initial position?

darkknight:

Initial position is 20 degrees. So 20(pi/180) is pi/9 radians

imqwerty:

Alright, and you've considered d as 0, correct?

darkknight:

yes i have. And I think I know why I messed up last time too

darkknight:

Yeah found my original mistake. So Instead of reading 1/(2pi/(1/6)) i read it as 1/2pi)/(1/6)

darkknight:

Don't have the answer yet thou

darkknight:

workin on it

imqwerty:

aight

darkknight:

hmm interesting. I got the answer I got the very first time

darkknight:

-21.58994668, −21.0510889)? but I know that can't be right either. I am messing up somewhere

imqwerty:

I think that is not correct

darkknight:

yes it isn't. Because the distance from that to the origin isn't the radius (29)

imqwerty:

yup, are you sure that the equation that you're using is correct?

darkknight:

Yes, confirmed

imqwerty:

the wheel rotates 6 times in a minute. the given time is 6mins so the wheel will make 6*6 = 36 complete rotations. Which means that you'll return to your initial position after 6 minutes

darkknight:

So now we have to find the position at 20 degrees. So do we do something like tan(20) = oppo/adj?

imqwerty:

\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @darkknight So my precalc teacher told me that the formula for sinusoidal parametrics are \[a(\sin((2\pi/b(t-Cx))+d, a(\sin((2\pi/b(t-Cy))+d\] Where a is radius b is the amount of time it takes for 1 rotation d = how far center is from x-axis Cx = (-initial position +pi/2) (1/(2pi/b)) Cy = (-initial position) (1/(2pi/b)) \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) are you sure they're both sin? i think one of them should be a cos

darkknight:

apparently sinusoidal functions, are supposed to be sin. Not cos. The formula is correct for a sinusoidal equation but I don't think that is what we have to do here

imqwerty:

cos works as well because you can covert between sin and cos

imqwerty:

I just checked it and the equations are correct. They simplify to this- \(acos(2\pi \omega t + \theta) + d,~ asin(2 \pi \omega t + \theta) + d \) you're probably making some calculation mistake

imqwerty:

\(\Large\frac{1}{\frac{2\pi}{\frac{1}{6}}} = \frac{1}{12\pi}\)

darkknight:

yes I just got that. And It let to my first answer which is wrong. If you are so sure let me retry the problem

darkknight:

"acos(2πωt+θ)+d" Are you sure. My teacher said a(sin(...

ramen:

this is confusing

darkknight:

Okay! I am actually big dumb. Thanks @imqwerty and all that has helped. We don't talk about not putting the calculator in radian mode.

ramen:

oh nice one. in alg 2 we do degrees

darkknight:

you know, I was doing the entire problem again and was gonna ask my teacher. But based off what imqwerty said it has to be in the first quadrant. So i was wondering why I was wrong. Figured out why at least xD

darkknight:

Let this be a lesson to all. REMEMBER WHAT MODE YOUR CALCULATOR IS IN!!!

imqwerty:

\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @darkknight "acos(2πωt+θ)+d" Are you sure. My teacher said a(sin(... \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) yeah, it's the same thing, but simplified

darkknight:

Oh okay.

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