Let’s make sure we can handle the symbolic and mechanical aspects of working with the inverse trigonometric functions: (a) Find four solutions of tan(2x2 +x−1) = 5. (b) Solve for x: tan−1 (2x2 + x − 1) = 0.5
@imqwerty, @isry @justjm I am a bit confused on how to do part A. (this is precalc btw) For B, is it just \[\tan^{-1} (2x^2+x-1) = .5\] \[\tan (\tan^{-1} (2x^2+x-1)=\tan (.5)\] So \[2x^2+x-1=\tan (.5)\] And then \[(2x-1)(x+1)=\tan(.5)\] And then individually solve for both equations? \[(\tan(.5) +1)/2\] and \[\tan(.5) -1\]
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Rip my work went away But B is right, solve for each For A you can try doing the same process but add \(+\pi n\) to the \(tan^{-1}(5)\) because tangent returns to its value every pi units [It's period]
n can be substituted for any value +/- n value
was it my fault? sorry
try using the quadratic formula.
So how I got (tan(.5)+1)/2 and tan(.5)−1, I just add integer of pi to it? Like (pi+(tan(.5))+1)/2 and pi+tan(.5)−1 And multiply pi by any integer. But for some reason, none of the answer choices are working, the answer key said that sample answers for part a are −1.9293, −1.3677, 0.8677, 1.4293 and I don't know how it is getting those values.
So you want to have \((2x^{2}+x-1)=tan^{-1}(5)+0\pi\) => \(\color{green}{(2x^{2}+x-1)=tan^{-1}(5)}\) This will give you 2 solutions \((2x^{2}+x-1)=tan^{-1}(5)+1\pi\) => \(\color{green}{(2x^{2}+x-1)=tan^{-1}(5)+\pi}\) You can't really solve this by factoring so you could either complete the square or use the quadratic formula
The second will give you the other two
Wait. We can't factor (2x^2+x−1)? Doesn't it factor into 2x-1 and x+1?
And we want this in radian mode Correct?
Yes but the issue is that if you factor it you'll get two totally different answers You'll get two lines rather than a parabola And yes radians
It would be easier though quadratic eq
hold on, lemme do that real quick
You'll need a calculator for the decimal
(2x^2+x−1) for this? doesn't it just factor out to 0 and 1/2?
Don't factor By factoring you alter the equation \( (2x^2+x−1)=tan^{-1}(5)\) Set equal to zero \( 2x^2+x−1-tan^{-1}(5)=0\) Take the values \((1-tan^{-1}(5))\) as the c value (constant) You'll end up with something like this \(\dfrac{-1\pm\sqrt{(1^2-4((2)(1-tan^{-1}(5))))}}{2(2)}\) Spliting to + and -: \(\dfrac{-1+\sqrt{(1^2-4((2)(1-tan^{-1}(5))))}}{2(2)}\) and \(\dfrac{-1-\sqrt{(1^2-4((2)(1-tan^{-1}(5))))}}{2(2)}\) This is so long thats why it would be better to solve with calc ====================================== For the other equation: \( (2x^2+x−1)=tan^{-1}(5)+\pi\) Set equal to zero \( 2x^2+x−1-tan^{-1}(5)+\pi=0\) Take the values \(1-tan^{-1}(5)+\pi\) as the constant Now for this one you would do a similar one as previous only adding pi to it \(\dfrac{-1+\sqrt{(1^2-4((2)(1-tan^{-1}(5)+\pi)))}}{2(2)}\) and \(\dfrac{-1-\sqrt{(1^2-4((2)(1-tan^{-1}(5)+\pi )))}}{2(2)}\)
Quadratic eq is easier to use if they give you quadratic equations Treat the trig function as a constant if they do not have x
Thanks @dude, that explanation really helped. You are Great!!!
But dude, The equations where you added pi to it, are undefined. What does that mean?
Hmm What calculator are you using? I think some manual ones use arctan instead of tan^-1
Or the equation might be too long
works for me... im using ti 84 plus
try redoing the negatives... maybe you did a negative instead of a minus symbol.
anyway quadratic formula did work though...
I used degrees but radians still should work... it does for me
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Use radians D:
Still doesn't work. Could you screenshot what you did?
Oh I goofed I missed the negative sign in front of the 1 and pi First two set should be: \(\dfrac{-1+\sqrt{1^2-4(2)(\color{red}{-}1-tan^{-1}(5))}}{2(2)}\) and \(\dfrac{-1+\sqrt{1^2-4(2)(\color{red}{-}1-tan^{-1}(5))}}{2(2)}\) Second set should be: \(\dfrac{-1+\sqrt{1^2-4(2)(\color{red}{-}1-tan^{-1}(5)\color{red}{-}\pi)}}{2(2)}\) and \(\dfrac{-1+\sqrt{1^2-4(2)(\color{red}{-}1-tan^{-1}(5)\color{red}{-}\pi)}}{2(2)}\)
Oh lol, its okay. thanks dude.
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