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bri05:

how do u do this

bri05:

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Angle:

Have you learned about the Triangle Congruence Postulates? For example: ASA, AAS, SAS, SSS ?

bri05:

mhm i have

Angle:

Cool, our goal is to use one of those to be able to say that the two triangles are congruent. after we say that the triangles are congruent, then we can use CPCTC to say that the two sides that we want are also congruent

Angle:

^ this is just our game plan / outline of what we want to do

bri05:

i- ahhhh ok

Angle:

are you confused? I know I just used a lot of words there lol

bri05:

i just dont get triangles and proofs, and most of my hw is triangles

Angle:

yeah I know, this entire geometry unit is just that - you're gonna spent a lot of your school year on this

Angle:

ok so since we want to use one of these : ASA, AAS, SAS, SSS Tell me what information do we have so far? Do we have an Angle, a Side? Two angles? three sides? What do we know are congruent already?

bri05:

ahh ok uhhhhhh ok

bri05:

theres 4 sides but no angles

Angle:

whoops, not what I meant I'll rephrase: What information is GIVEN to us? Are they telling us about angles or sides (in the Given information)

bri05:

ummm it says that angle DFE is congruent to angle DFG

bri05:

and then the other given it says angel EDF is congruent to angle GDF

Angle:

Perfect! So we know that TWO pairs of angles are already congruent. Which of the triangle congruence postulates can use two pairs of angles? ASA, AAS, SAS, SSS (aka, which of those combinations have to As in them?)

Angle:

*have TWO As in them

bri05:

there are no angles tho

Angle:

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bri05:

ohhhhh

Angle:

you have to use what they told you to mark the angles yourself

Angle:

now tell me: which postulate should we use? ASA, AAS, SAS, SSS Which of these combinations has TWO As?

bri05:

would it be asa?

Angle:

good good! ASA or AAS both have two As which means that either way, we want to name another pair of SIDES that are congruent in order to use ASA OR AAS what is a side that could potentially be equal to another side in your picture?

bri05:

what do u mean?

Angle:

Why would the side DF be equal to the side DF?

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bri05:

\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Angle Why would the side DF be equal to the side DF? \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) cuz they are reflected angles?

jimthompson5910:

Be careful to note that ASA and AAS depend on the order With ASA, the sides are between the angles With AAS, the sides are not between the angles So they're slightly different ideas

Angle:

close @bri05 there is a reflection going on, but I was just talking about SIDE DF being equal to SIDE DF, why did you include angles in your answer?

bri05:

what not i didnt im lost againnnnn

Angle:

\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @bri05 \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Angle Why would the side DF be equal to the side DF? \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) cuz they are reflected angles? \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) Side DF = Side DF because of the Reflexive Property of Equality

bri05:

yeah anddd im lost now

Angle:

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Angle:

This line segment I just circled is called SIDE DF I am saying that Side DF is equal to Side DF

bri05:

ohhhhhhh ok

Angle:

Which triangle congruence postulate do you think we should use then?

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bri05:

ohhh so its asa

Angle:

awesome! So just a recap of what we have figured out so far: DF = DF because of the Reflexive Property And triangle DFG = triangle DFE because of ASA

bri05:

\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Angle awesome! So just a recap of what we have figured out so far: DF = DF because of the Reflexive Property And triangle DFG = triangle DFE because of ASA \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) I got lost on that bottom part

Angle:

\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) bri05 ohhh so its asa \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) You just said that we can use ASA

Angle:

ASA says that the triangles are congruent

bri05:

ohhh ok i think i get it

Angle:

Ok then What does CPCTC mean?

bri05:

ummmmm i dont know

Angle:

Have you heard of: Corresponding Parts of Congruent Triangles are Congruent ?

bri05:

ohhhhhh mhm i have

bri05:

i just dont get what it means

Angle:

It means that: If we know that two triangles are congruent. Then we know that all of the corresponding angles and corresponding sides are also congruent.

bri05:

\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Angle It means that: If we know that two triangles are congruent. Then we know that all of the corresponding angles and corresponding sides are also congruent. \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) ohhh ok

Angle:

Alright, Are the sides DE and DG corresponding sides?

bri05:

mhm they are

jimthompson5910:

Imagine 2 houses that are identical. If that's the case, then the two front doors are the same houses = triangles front doors = piece of the triangle That's one possible analogy to think of to help remember how CPCTC works

Angle:

Are the two triangles DFE and DFG congruent triangles?

bri05:

\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @jimthompson5910 Imagine 2 houses that are identical. If that's the case, then the two front doors are the same houses = triangles front doors = piece of the triangle That's one possible analogy to think of to help remember how CPCTC works \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) i- u got me more confused dude

bri05:

\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Angle Are the two triangles DFE and DFG congruent triangles? \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) mhm they are

jimthompson5910:

Sorry ignore my comment

Angle:

Then we are allowed to use CPCTC this means that DE = DG because of CPCTC

bri05:

ohhhhhhh so does that mean triangles DFE and DG are equal cuz of CPCTC

Angle:

NONO the triangles were equal because of ASA

bri05:

WHATTTTT

Angle:

ASA means: If we have a pair of Angles, a pair of Sides, and another pair of Angles that are all equal Then the two triangles are congruent

bri05:

ok i get that

Angle:

so recap: DF = DF because reflexive property Triangle DFE = triangle DFG because ASA DE = DG because CPCTC

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