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aquire:

I think I understand this. https://users.sussex.ac.uk/~waa22/relativity/Complete_Derivation_files/derivation.pdf Is there more to it than assuming that time is not an absolute thing and the speed of light is the absolute thing?

sugardad:

we arent helping u figure it out urself

Florisalreadytaken:

isnt time absolute as well?

aquire:

according to special theory of relativity, no \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Florisalreadytaken isnt time absolute as well? \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\)

aquire:

@Florisalreadytaken what do you mean by "more to it" I mean any other assumptions?

Florisalreadytaken:

what about this \[ (c t)^{2}=(v t)^{2}+\left(c t_{0}\right)^{2}\] \[c^{2} t^{2}=v^{2} t^{2}+c^{2} t_{0}^{2} \] \[\Rightarrow c^{2} t_{0}^{2}=\left(c^{2}-v^{2}\right) t^{2} \] \[\Rightarrow t_{0}^{2}=\left(1-\frac{v^{2}}{c^{2}}\right) t^{2} \] \[t \sqrt{1-\frac{v^{2}}{c^{2}}}=t_{0} \] \[\Rightarrow t=\frac{t_{0}}{\sqrt{1-\frac{v^{2}}{c^{2}}}}\]

aquire:

Where do you get this from ? \[(c t)^{2}=(v t)^{2}+\left(c t_{0}\right)^{2}\]

Florisalreadytaken:

If a spherical light wave is produced at the origin of the S and S' inertial frames at t = 0, the statement about the constant velocity of light in different inertial frames can be expressed using that formula

aquire:

I'm confused. What do you mean by spherical? Is it as in spherical wave, like light originated from a point source?

Florisalreadytaken:

yes, thats right

aquire:

what does have to do with the derivation. I was thinking more of a photon bouncing from one mirror to another back and forth.

Florisalreadytaken:

because it emerges from one point and then when it hits the mirror, it reflects and so on

aquire:

still not clear how it matters. We are thinking this is in photon level aren't we? Is there any importance in thinking about spherical wave fronts?

Florisalreadytaken:

anyway let's just forget about what I said -- what you got on that pdf file is very well explained, and, based on what you're asking for, I don't believe there's anything more.

aquire:

My suspicion was if it is a toned down version of a more advanced version. Ok thanks for help.

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