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crispyrat:

Math help ss below :)

crispyrat:

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crispyrat:

thats the work i did so far @AZ what do u think i should do next?

crispyrat:

wait @AZ could i also get rid of a by minusing those 3 equations?

AZ:

I'm just wondering if there's a more efficient method. I'm guessing you haven't learned about using matrices to solve systems of linear equations yet?

crispyrat:

no? can you explain? I actually have a question about that/cramers rule i think later on!

AZ:

Ah, Cramer's rule so that would fall in this realm

crispyrat:

yes, so how could i use it to help with this problem :)?

AZ:

How much have you learned about matrices so far? https://www.mathsisfun.com/algebra/systems-linear-equations-matrices.html |dw:1620084396127:dw|

AZ:

personally, I never liked matrices much and so I always used calculators to do all of it for me xD

crispyrat:

so how would i inverse this?

crispyrat:

so how would i use a matrix calculator?

AZ:

okay since we have 4 equations here, it gets really messy so maybe if we can just reduce it to 3 equations with a, b, and c and then once we find those values, we could solve for d so you found 4a + 6b - 8c = 36 or 2a + 3b - 4c = 18 and equation #2 in the systems of equation is 7a + 2b - c = -28 and then let's add the equation 3 and 2* equation 4 and we get -a + 2b - 7c - 2d = 46 2(3a + 7b - 6c + d) = 2*31 -a + 6a + 2b + 14b - 7c - 12c = 108 5a + 16b - 19c = 108 so we have 2a + 3b - 4c = 18 7a + 2b - c = -28 5a + 16b - 19c = 108

AZ:

Cramer's rule is probably what we should be using

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AZ:

We can create those matrices D, Dx, Dy, and Dz and then we calculate the determinants of them the x-value would be Dx/D the y-value would be Dy/D the z-value would be Dz/D

crispyrat:

what is does the little letter of x,y,z for?

AZ:

https://www.purplemath.com/modules/cramers.htm so if you notice in Dx, they're replacing the x-values with the number that the equation is equal to and in Dy, they replace the y-values with with those values and similarly in Dz

AZ:

so from those four equations your question provided, we came up with 2a + 3b - 4c = 18 7a + 2b - c = -28 5a + 16b - 19c = 108 the first one was by adding equations 1, 3, and 4 the second one is just equation 2 and the third one is by adding equation 3 + 2*(equation 4)

AZ:

This is how you find the determinants of a 3x3 matrix

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crispyrat:

im a bit confused can u give me an example?

AZ:

If you're always lazy https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=2a+-3b%2B5c%2Bd%3D-41%2C+7a%2B2b-c%3D-28%2C+-a%2B2b-7c-2d%3D46%2C+3a%2B7b-6c%2Bd%3D31 and just checking, the three equations we made still give us the correct a, b, and c values and then we could plug that in to one equation and find d https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=2a+%2B+3b+-+4c+%3D+18%2C+7a+%2B+2b+-+c+%3D+-28+%2C+5a+%2B+16b+-+19c+%3D+108 but we can continue solving do you know how to find the determinant of a 2x2 matrix? It's just \[\left[\begin{matrix}a & b \\ c & d\end{matrix}\right] = ad -bc\]

AZ:

If you want an example https://www.purplemath.com/modules/cramers.htm they use a different way to find the determinants though so don't get confused haha but you could also use a matrix calculator to save time once you understand the method https://www.mathsisfun.com/algebra/matrix-calculator.html

crispyrat:

im srry i don't rlly understand any of this :( is there anyother way?

AZ:

unfortunately the only other way to do it is by not understanding and using calculators to do it for you :/

AZ:

I guess you know how we made those three equations with three variables? Let's just do that and bring it down to two equations and two variables and then we can solve for c since the second equation in your question has a, b, and c and then we can plug it into any other equation and solve for d

AZ:

So these were the three equations we had made when 2a + 3b - 4c = 18 7a + 2b - c = -28 5a + 16b - 19c = 108 Multiply the second equation above by 4 (it's also technically the original second equation from the main question haha) 28a + 8b - 4c = -112 2a + 3b - 4c = 18 subtract the two equations 26a + 5b = -112 - 18 26a + 5b = -130 and so now let's create another equation using the last two of those three 7a + 2b - c = -28 5a + 16b - 19c = 108 multiply the top one by 19 and then subtract 133a + 38b - 19c = -532 5a + 16b - 19c = 108 and subtract it and we get 128a + 22b = -640 so now the two equations we have are 26a + 5b = -130 128a + 22b = -640 can you solve for a and b?

AZ:

so the only other way is just more tedious and longer while Cramer's method is meant to be more efficient and save you time

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