How do I solve this? a, b, c, d, e, f are positive numbers, if a+b+c+d+e+f=6 and a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2+e^2+f^2=36/5 how do I find the largest possible value of a^3+b^3+c^3+d^3+e^3+f^3?
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The point E can be obtained by folding the square along the bisector of angle BAC, so that AB is folded onto the diagonal with B landing on E. If F is the point where the bisector intersects B C, then B F folds to E F. Thus E F -1 AC and BF = EF. Since L.EFC = 45° = L.ECF, FE = EC. l.1(b). WC! = IBC! - IBFI = IAEI - ICEI = 21AEI - lAC! and IEC! = lAC! - IAEI = lAC! - IBC!. l.3(a). n Pn qn rn 1 1 1 1 2 3 2 3/2 = 1.5 3 7 5 7/5 = 1.4 4 17 12 17/12 = 1.416666 5 41 29 41/29 = 1.413793 1.3(c). Clearly, rn > 1 for each n, so that from (b), rn+1 - rn and rn - rn-I have opposite signs and 1 Irn+l - rnl < 41rn - rn-II· Since r2 > 1 = rl, it follows that rl < r3 < r2. Suppose as an induction hypothesis that rl < r3 < ... < r2m-1 < r2m < ... < r2. Then 0 < r2m - r2m+1 < r2m - r2m-1 and 0 < r2m+2 - r2m+1 < r2m - r2m+J. so that r2m-1 < r2m+1 < r2m+2 < r2m. Let k, 1 be any positive integers. Then, for m > k, I, r2k+1 < r2m-1 < r2m < r21. l.3(d). Leta be the least upper bound (i.e., the smallest number at least as great as all) of the numbers in the set {rl, r3, r5, ... , r2k+l, ... }. Then r2m-1 ::::: a ::::: r2m- the point is its useless
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Okay, so in order to make \(\sf{~~~a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2+e^2+f^2}\) true, we need to find out what mixture of values will get you “\(\sf{\dfrac{36}{5}}\)” that also equal 6. So what values of a,b,c,d,e, and f, can not only get you “\(\sf{\dfrac{36}{5}}\),” but also get you 6?
i tried but i can't figure out how to make both equations true at the same time
Try remembering negatives and decimals, I know it widens the range, but yk
it says positive though
so I plugged in a=b=c=d=1 and solved for e and f. I got \(1\pm\frac{\sqrt{15}}5\), which makes a^3+b^3+c^3+d^3+e^3+f^3 equal to \(\frac{48}5\) but how would I prove that it is the largest possible value?
Go through the \(\sf{^3}\)s and solve it using the answers you got for the \(\sf{^2}\)s
how would i prove that it's the largest possible value though? it's possible there are different a, b, c, d, e, f that give a larger value
Unless- was that the answer you got for the 3rds-?
Well the possibilities of a, b, c, d, e, and f all have to equal 6 (as in the basic equation) But using the \(\sf{^2}\)s and solving what the values of a, b, c, d, e, and f are is what will give you the value for the \(\sf{^3}\)s
If you get what I’m saying
there are infinitely many possibilities for a,b,c,d,e,f, how do i try all of them
That’s why the squares are there
there's still infinitely many though
For the first equation there is, but not if you solve for the variables
On the second equation*
if i plug in any values of a,b,c,d then there are two variables left and two equations which gives a unique solution for e and f, so how do I try all possibilities of a,b,c,d? they are real numbers so there are infinitely many possibilities
Look at it this way, what values can a b c d e and f equal that give you “36/5” when they are squared, but give you “6” when they are not squared?
infinitely many
You have to get an exact value of 7.2 though.
there are 6 variables but only 2 equations, there's not enough information to solve for the variables
You have to use the fact that a b c d e and f (their values themselves) all combine to equal 6 in every equation 36/5 is just the answer to what the variables all squared would equal
i found a few more: (0.8,0.8,0.8,0.8,0.8,2), (0.8,0.8,0.8,0.8,2,0.8), (0.8,0.8,0.8,2,0.8,0.8), (0.8,0.8,2,0.8,0.8,0.8),(0.8,2,0.8,0.8,0.8,0.8),(2,0.8,0.8,0.8,0.8,0.8), which all make the cubed expression 10.56, and (0,1.2,1.2,1.2,1.2,1.2), which makes the cubed expression 8.64
how do i prove that it is the maximum?
Okay so I looked back to your answer that you got from solving them, and there’s an easier way to prove this, if I’m remembering this correctly The change between \(\sf{^1}\) and \(\sf{^2}\) is 1.2 Now, given that and the value you achieved, \(\sf{\dfrac{48}{5}}\), you can prove it This is simply by understanding the equation has a straight increase, so you can use the amount of increase per powers to figure out the next \(=\) It jumps from \(6\) to \(7.2\) (1.2 increase) and then to \(9.6\), which is a 2.4 increase Meaning your equation is increasing at this straight incline
but I found a larger value with different a, b, c, d, e, f, which is 10.56
this is trivial
when did i ask
if it's trivial then what's your proof
ok I think I have a proof that 10.56 is optimal first b+c+d+e+f=6-a and b^2+c^2+d^2+e^2+f^2=36/5-a^2 so by cauchy schwarz (36-5a^2)>=(6-a)^2, so 6a^2-12a<=0, which means a<=2. Now, we have \((a-4/5)^2 (a-2)\leq0\) so \(a^3-3.6a^2+3.84a-1.28\leq0\), so \(a^3+b^3+c^3+d^3+e^3+f^3\\\leq3.6(a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2+e^2+f^2)-3.84(a+b+c+d+e+f)+7.68\\=25.92-23.04+7.68=10.56\) this means that the maximum value is \(\boxed{10.56}\) :)
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