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Generation Z, also known as Gen Z, is the generation born between 1995 and 2012. This generation has a significant number of individuals identifying as transgender or nonbinary.
Some key points about Gen Z and gender confusion include:
Gen Z can identify as transgender, nonbinary, gender fluid, gender queer, demiboy, demigirl, and other terms describing self-definitions of gender.
In late 2020 and early 2021, Gen Z was the only U.S. generation in which a majority believed there are more than two genders.
1.8% of Gen Zers identify as transgender, the highest percentage of all living generations.
23% of Gen Z now identify using a non-gendered pronoun like 'they/them'.
59% of Gen Zers believe online forms that ask about gender should have gender-neutral options available.
The reasons behind Gen Z's gender confusion, particularly among those assigned female at birth, are not entirely clear. Some theories suggest that Gen Z young adults are more likely to know the term transgender, leading to increased identification.
Additionally, social media has played a significant role in providing support and connecting like-minded individuals for those exploring their gender confusion.
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Ferrari:
The way God assigns you is the way He assigns you, not a form/piece of paper, your parents, social media, or ANYTHING.
axie:
I just call it the default setting atp
Hero:
@ferrari wrote:
The way God assigns you is the way He assigns you, not a form/piece of paper, your parents, social media, or ANYTHING.
That needs to be clarified because a gender-confused person will interpret that with a non-biblical perspective
Gen 1:27
[27]So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Funny thing is, they will still mis-intepret Gen 1:27
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FrogGirlEmmy:
I love hero for this, I'm tranny phobic
Ferrari:
@hero wrote:
@ferrari wrote:
The way God assigns you is the way He assigns you, not a form/piece of paper, your parents, social media, or ANYTHING.
That needs to be clarified because a gender-confused person will interpret that with a non-biblical perspective
Gen 1:27
[27]So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Funny thing is, they will still mis-intepret Gen 1:27
male and female he created them
Hero:
@ferrari wrote:
@hero wrote:
@ferrari wrote:
The way God assigns you is the way He assigns you, not a form/piece of paper, your parents, social media, or ANYTHING.
That needs to be clarified because a gender-confused person will interpret that with a non-biblical perspective
Gen 1:27
[27]So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Funny thing is, they will still mis-intepret Gen 1:27
male and female he created them
That's what the confused will use to justify THEMselves.
Ferrari:
"THEMselves" 😭...
Porque:
doesn't make sense to use the Bible some are aetheists
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Ferrari:
@porque wrote:
doesn't make sense to use the Bible some are aetheists
The Bible is the source of all true wisdom, His Wisdom, to be exact, not what flesh wants and supposed needs that prioritize society today.
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Ferrari:
Is there a meaning to that comment
Swirxy:
you never watched dragon ball?
Swirxy:
ever?
Ferrari:
Bro I don't watch anime
Swirxy:
if you don't know "welcome to dragon ball z". That is crazy
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Ferrari:
I know the show but I've never watched it
Swirxy:
or "Next time on dragon ball z"
Ferrari:
I know the reference goodness gravy man
axie:
Don't feel like women but also hate men? Come on down to pronoun town and buy a they/them!
Porque:
@ferrari wrote:
@porque wrote:
doesn't make sense to use the Bible some are aetheists
The Bible is the source of all true wisdom, His Wisdom, to be exact, not what flesh wants and supposed needs that prioritize society today.
Doesn’t matter if ur aetheist🤓
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Ferrari:
It does bro cuz it's also considered a historical document
Porque:
@ferrari wrote:
It does bro cuz it's also considered a historical document
Doesn’t 🗣️
Porque:
Jus common sense thwt there r 2 genders
5StarFab:
Wait if god made us then doesn't that mean he made adam?
Swirxy:
basically yes.
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5StarFab:
And how can god make us if it showed we evolved from animals?
5StarFab:
And the fact people want to put their own religious belief on us is crazy
Swirxy:
@5starfab wrote:
And how can god make us if it showed we evolved from animals?
idek tbh
5StarFab:
people believe anything from the bible.And one of the things Jesus says that being gay is a sin.But there is a gay jests doesn't that mean he's breaking his own rule.Which means he's committing a sin.
5StarFab:
And just because it's in the bible doesn't make it true.
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5StarFab:
@ferrari wrote:
It does bro cuz it's also considered a historical document
And so is evolution
5StarFab:
@ferrari wrote:
@hero wrote:
@ferrari wrote:
The way God assigns you is the way He assigns you, not a form/piece of paper, your parents, social media, or ANYTHING.
That needs to be clarified because a gender-confused person will interpret that with a non-biblical perspective
Gen 1:27
[27]So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Funny thing is, they will still mis-intepret Gen 1:27
male and female he created them
God didn't me cause he was dead before i was born.So it can't simply apply to other people.Cause he's gone.
Ferrari:
@5starfab wrote:
@ferrari wrote:
Can you give proof that he's gone?
@hero wrote:
@ferrari wrote:
The way God assigns you is the way He assigns you, not a form/piece of paper, your parents, social media, or ANYTHING.
That needs to be clarified because a gender-confused person will interpret that with a non-biblical perspective
Gen 1:27
[27]So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Funny thing is, they will still mis-intepret Gen 1:27
male and female he created them
God didn't me cause he was dead before i was born.So it can't simply apply to other people.Cause he's gone.
5StarFab:
the cross.
Ferrari:
That was Jesus, who rose from the dead.
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5StarFab:
And can you show us he's still alive?
Ferrari:
Revivals around the world.
5StarFab:
And why are you here putting you're religious belief on us?
Ferrari:
I am not, just explaining the truth! I would never force you or anyone to believe even though I hope and pray all of those who stray from the Truth will come to Him
Ferrari:
And many biblical prophecies are coming true.
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5StarFab:
if god created us how was adam the first one on earth?
Ferrari:
Read Genesis 1 and 2, read the King James Version
5StarFab:
And just because you read it from a bible doesn't make it true.
5StarFab:
Not all bibles tell the truth.
Ferrari:
The Bible is the True Doctrine, and the KJV is the most vastly accepted Bible in the world.
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5StarFab:
And you over here trying to tell us who created us.So does that mean our parents are not parents? cause "God made us"
Ferrari:
Bro
Swirxy:
wait a minute.
Ferrari:
@Hero I know I'm not supposed to tag but may you explain? I apologize in advance
Swirxy:
tell me if im wrong.
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Swirxy:
but was god born before christ?
Swirxy:
i feel like i heard someone say it before i just don't remember it at all.
Ferrari:
The Holy Trinity has always existed, but when it was time for Christ to come down to Earth and be born through Mary, it was time. He became the Savior of Israel/Judah.
Swirxy:
oh.
Swirxy:
noted
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5StarFab:
But doesn't this make our so called parents not our parents cause we had someone else create us?
Ferrari:
@5starfab I recommend that you pick up a King James Version Bible and start reading as it will give you great passages to read up on for wisdom and the Truth about mankind.
Ferrari:
@5starfab wrote:
But doesn't this make our so called parents not our parents cause we had someone else create us?
He created us through our parents.
Hero:
Genesis 2:7
[7]And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Genesis 2:22
And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
@5StarFab show a scripture where parents "made" man or woman. Sex and birth is reproduction but it does not constitute how man or woman was formed originally.
Hero:
Only God (not your parents) has the ability to give man the "breath of life".
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Hero:
This is what makes creation different from reproduction.
Ferrari:
@5starfab wrote:
@ferrari wrote:
It does bro cuz it's also considered a historical document
And so is evolution
Evolution is a theory, just like the supposed Big Bang Theory
Nooooooob:
@porque n
Porque:
@nooooooob wrote:
@porque n
Oh
TheAmazingKbw:
@ferrari wrote:
Galatians 5:17-21 states,
I FORGOT ABOUT DIS ONE, imma use it on the pastor in my church since he is a non 💀
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Swirxy:
@theamazingkbw wrote:
@ferrari wrote:
Galatians 5:17-21 states,
I FORGOT ABOUT DIS ONE, imma use it on the pastor in my church since he is a non 💀
......oki....
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@5starfab wrote:
people believe anything from the bible.And one of the things Jesus says that being gay is a sin.But there is a gay jests doesn't that mean he's breaking his own rule.Which means he's committing a sin.
that is also from the new testament the old testament has nothing against people of homosexuality
TheAmazingKbw:
@5starfab wrote:
people believe anything from the bible.And one of the things Jesus says that being gay is a sin.But there is a gay jests doesn't that mean he's breaking his own rule.Which means he's committing a sin.
but it also says in the bible that Jesus lived a sin free life
5StarFab:
@theamazingkbw wrote:
@5starfab wrote:
people believe anything from the bible.And one of the things Jesus says that being gay is a sin.But there is a gay jests doesn't that mean he's breaking his own rule.Which means he's committing a sin.
but it also says in the bible that Jesus lived a sin free life
This was 2 months ago
zombieblud:
Yall believe what yall want to but as a christ follower, you do you and dont force it on one another please🙏
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Hero:
@zombieblud wrote:
Yall believe what yall want to but as a christ follower, you do you and dont force it on one another please🙏
Not consistent with what the bible says
somnium:
i thought i was smart but uh
turntechGodhead:
At the heart of the claim that the Bible is clear "that homosexuality/transgenderism is forbidden by God" is poor biblical scholarship and a cultural bias read into the Bible. The oft-used line from the Genesis creation story, actually quotes God as saying, “let us make mankind in our image”, and this God then ultimately creates both men and women. If we are to (as so many homophobic/transphobic Christians do) take these words at face value, we need to ask the question:
Which ones were created in God’s image, the males or the females?
If our answer is both (which it must be), then God is decidedly non-binary, God transcends a single gender identity—God is by nature trans-gender. We cannot have God be a He and also make women in His image—and we can’t have a God capable of creating men and women, unless God is equally made of both. These Christians wouldn’t dream of excoriating God for the fluidity, would they?
These same folks also want to use the Bible to condemn LGBTQ people and to deny them the rights of marriage and church fellowship, but they have another problem: the Bible. They have all sorts of issues to contend with there.
They’ll attempt to use the word homosexuality (which does not occur in the original texts) as an umbrella term to refer to both gender identity and sexual orientation—when the context of the translated word they’re using and the occasions it appears in Scripture, simply cannot refer to both things simultaneously. Additionally, many Transgender people are in fact, not same-sex oriented, and not accurately described by the same word Christians would use to describe a gay or lesbian person.
They like to say that the Bible declares that marriage is strictly between one man and one women, while the Old Testament, as early as Genesis’ fourth chapter is teeming with bigamy, polygamy, and extra-marital sex practiced by the lauded pillars and Patriarchs of the faith (Abraham, Gideon, Solomon, David)—not as cautionary tale, and not with rebuke, but simply as the story of God’s people. There are no definitive statements on marriage spanning the breadth of Scripture.
They’ll frequently refer to the book of Leviticus, claiming it says that “homosexuality” an abomination (a flawed talking point as we’ll discuss later)—and ignore the surrounding verses commanding that disrespectful teens and those having extramarital sex be stoned to death—along with hundreds of requirements and punishments, most of which they declare irrelevant to their present lives. It’s becomes a highly selective use of the text.
They’ll throw around the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, as supposed proof of God’s wrath against the gay community—when in fact, the book of Ezekiel 16:49 declares the former was destroyed because of its greed and disregard for the poor—but you don’t see many of these Christians preaching that sermon, especially not GOP Christians.
They’ll try to say that Jesus opposes the LGBTQ community, when he never once corrects, cautions, or condemns anyone based on their gender identity or sexual orientation. In this case, we’re supposed to believe the unspoken damnation is implied, when in reality these people are making Jesus say things he never said—simply because they want him to say it.
They’ll refer to a “homosexual lifestyle,” when the Bible is devoid of such terminology—for the simple reason that the concept itself is ludicrous and nonexistent (as proven by the fact that a “heterosexual lifestyle” makes absolutely no sense when applied to straight people.)
They’ll claim that the term homosexual refers simply to people who have sex with same gender partners, yet will also admit that their own heterosexuality, refers to far more than just their sexual activity, but to their inclinations to love, where they seek affection, intimacy, relationship. They can’t have these words work both ways. They need to decide whether the less than a handful of passages in the New Testament are referring to identity, orientation—or a specific behavior by specific groups of people in a specific context (which is likely). Great unpacking of these passages here.
They’ll quote Paul in Romans Chapter 1, describing people consciously “trading their natural attractions” for same-sex desire and corresponding physical acts), failing to connect the dots, that for most members of the LGBTQ, there is no such exchanging taking place. They aren’t feeling one thing, and choosing an alternative simply to choose. They aren’t acting in opposition to any primary inclination. Their same-sex orientation is their natural. (If pressed, these Christians need to admit that this passage refers to a specific sex act tied to pagan worship practices, and cannot be superimposed over identity and orientation—and it’s certainly not appropriate to use it to categorize committed, loving relationships by people along the full LGBTQ continuum.) When trying to use Paul’s references in this way, they’re trying to separate LGBTQ people from the capacity to love and be in mutually beneficial relationships—and that’s simply wrong.
At the end of the day, the Bible is not clear on these matters. It is cloudy and even contradictory at times. There is no consistent sexual ethic in the Scriptures, no one image of marriage—and no specific condemnation from Jesus or Paul of those who are gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgender simply because of their identity and orientation. If we can admit, that LGBTQ people have the same capacity for love, commitment, and monogamy in a mutually beneficial relationship that cisgender-heteronormative Christians do—the text becomes impossible to weaponize as it has been.
And the God of the Bible, as presented in Genesis, is himself/herself/itself an image of the beautiful spectrum of sexuality, and a defense of those who believe we each manifest this complexity in a myriad of ways.
Christians wanting to persecute the LGBTQ community have long claimed that God and the Bible are their justifications, but this simply isn’t accurate—not if they’re to use the reality of God and all the words of the Bible (not just the bits that feel like consent when isolated in social media diatribes and shouted sermons.)
These people are going to have to admit that ultimately the only authority they’re yielding to in these matters is their own (or the teachers or parents who have passed these ideas down to them. ) It is their fear, their prejudice, their lack of knowledge that causes them to lash out in hurtful words, violent rhetoric, and abject cruelty.
More and more Christians are beginning to understand this; that our faith tradition has gotten it wrong regarding sexuality, the same way it has regarding the worth of women, the plague of slavery, interracial marriage, the violence against non-Christians, and on and on. They are seeing that being LGBTQ and being Christian are not mutually exclusive. They’re seeing that a Church that honors God will welcome all people.
We’ve wasted so much time, so many resources, and so many beautiful, God-reflecting lives, because we’ve made our fear our idol and tried to retrofit God into that image. The sooner we can let go of this misplaced fervor and this fruitless fight, the sooner we can live out Jesus’ clear and unmistakable commands, that we love God and all those who share this space with us.
No, being LGBTQ is not a sin.
The sin, is the hatred that refuses to let go of that notion when evidence requires it.
(https://johnpavlovitz.com/2017/07/21/no-gay-lesbian-bisexual-transgender-not-sin/)
Hero:
@turntechgodhead From the book of Timothy which was written by Paul:
1 Timothy 1:10 (NIV) wrote:
For the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine
1 Timothy 1:10 (ESV) wrote:
The sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine
turntechGodhead:
@hero wrote:
@turntechgodhead From the book of Timothy which was written by Paul:
1 Timothy 1:10 (NIV) wrote:
For the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine
1 Timothy 1:10 (ESV) wrote:
The sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine
The word “Cheesenokoitai” shows up in two different verses in the bible, but it was not translated to mean “homosexual” until 1946.
In the English where it says “Man shall not lie with man, for it is an abomination,” the German version says “Man shall not lie with young boys as he does with a woman, for it is an abomination.”.
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turntechGodhead:
The bible has gone through many translations and changes, but all of the first ones never said homosexual at all. Also- being gay in no way relates to your gender identity, it's simply who you love.
turntechGodhead:
I'm sure you must be very upset that this generation is more accepting and out there about this topic. We've always existed, it's just that if we were open about it in the past we'd be dead.
CecePitbull:
fr.
CecePitbull:
@turntechgodhead wrote:
I'm sure you must be very upset that this generation is more accepting and out there about this topic. We've always existed, it's just that if we were open about it in the past we'd be dead.
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Hero:
@turntechgodhead wrote:
The word “Cheesenokoitai” shows up in two different verses in the bible, but it was not translated to mean “homosexual” until 1946.
Was it translated as such because that's what it means? (Yes) Are you creating false justifications to support a lifestyle that God never intended for man to practice? Are you misguided, reading the literature of other misguided souls? Do you really believe God approves of the LGBT community? Did not God destroy Sodom/Gommorah? Do you really believe God will spare them when he returns? Do you really believe God considers LGBT righteous? What does LGBT do that is righteous in the eyes of God?
I want essay answers with biblical proof to every question. Friday is the deadline. I gave you the answer to the first question for free.
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CecePitbull:
@hero wrote:
@turntechgodhead wrote:
The word “Cheesenokoitai” shows up in two different verses in the bible, but it was not translated to mean “homosexual” until 1946.
Was it translated as such because that's what it means? (Yes) Are you creating false justifications to support a lifestyle that God never intended for man to practice? Are you misguided, reading the literature of other misguided souls? Do you really believe God approves of the LGBT community? Did not God destroy Sodom/Gommorah? Do you really believe God will spare them when he returns? Do you really believe God considers LGBT righteous? What does LGBT do that is righteous in the eyes of God?
I want essay answers with biblical proof to every question. Friday is the deadline. I gave you the answer to the first question for free.
ok listen here buddy. it was translated and changed over the years. it wasnt ment to be like that. Also, i have a quick question for you. tell me please, do you believe in evelution? or do you think that 'god made adam and eve' even tho there is scientific proof. so many things have been proven wrong with science. encluding that joke adam and eve. Oh and an example of how the bible was changed and wrong. It used to say Man shall not sleep with boy. refering to pedophelia And it is now man shall not sleep with man. it has been changed and translated to peoples likings. im sure if there is a god he wouldnt be happy with you spreading lies and transleting his words wrongly. nobody is paying you for nothing buddy. nobody needs to give you an essay Bud.
turntechGodhead:
@hero One day god will come for us all, and he will be weeping as he watches his creations burn into the flames of hell they chose for themselves. Your beliefs cause innocent human beings to die. Why do you want these innocent people to suffer? I thought god loved everyone.
CecePitbull:
By the way, im just gonna bring up the fact that there is proven evidence of the bible being changed to peoples liking.
CecePitbull:
@turntechgodhead wrote:
@hero One day god will come for us all, and he will be weeping as he watches his creations burn into the flames of hell they chose for themselves. Your beliefs cause innocent human beings to die. Why do you want these innocent people to suffer? I thought god loved everyone.
thats what it says right? god loves everyone. why does loving a gender matter so much???
CecePitbull:
But you know what out of spite ill give you an essay.
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Hero:
@cecepitbull wrote:
nobody needs to give you an essay Bud.
Challenge wasn't for you
@turntechgodhead wrote:
I thought god loved everyone.
Read 2 Esdras 6:54-56 and Romans 9:13
God never loved "everyone".
CecePitbull:
Again. the bible has been changed to peoples likings over the years.
Hero:
@cecepitbull wrote:
Again. the bible has been changed to peoples likings over the years.
To who's liking? Who likes the Bible? I mostly see people bashing it rather than liking it.
CecePitbull:
@hero wrote:
@cecepitbull wrote:
Again. the bible has been changed to peoples likings over the years.
To who's liking? Who likes the Bible? I mostly see people bashing it rather than liking it.
people have changed it to say what they want it to say. are you listening???
turntechGodhead:
One of the key points to note is that the word "homosexual" as we understand it today did not exist in the original biblical texts. The concept of sexual orientation as a defining aspect of a person's identity was not understood in the same way in the ancient world as it is in contemporary times. The word "homosexual" was not added to the Bible until the 20th century, and its inclusion has been a subject of debate among biblical scholars and theologians.
When examining specific biblical passages that are often cited in discussions about homosexuality, it is important to recognize the nuances of translation and interpretation. For example, in the New Testament, the Greek word "Salsanokoitai" in 1 Corinthians 6:9 and 1 Timothy 1:10 is often translated as "homosexuals" in modern versions of the Bible. However, the precise meaning and historical context of this term have been the subject of scholarly debate.
Some biblical scholars argue that "Orangenokoitai" likely referred to exploitative or abusive sexual practices, such as those associated with temple prostitution or pederasty, rather than consensual, loving relationships between individuals of the same sex. It is crucial to consider the cultural and social context of the ancient world in which these texts were written and to avoid imposing modern understandings of sexual orientation onto ancient texts.
Furthermore, it is important to recognize that the Bible contains a rich tapestry of teachings on love, compassion, and the intrinsic value of every human being. Jesus' teachings emphasize the importance of love, empathy, and understanding, and he calls us to treat others as we would like to be treated.
In light of these considerations, many Christians argue that the Bible's overarching message of love and inclusion should guide our approach to LGBTQ+ individuals. Rather than focusing on specific proof texts, it is essential to engage in a holistic and empathetic reading of the Bible, seeking to create an environment of love and acceptance for all individuals, regardless of their sexual orientation or gender identity.
One of the foundational principles of Christianity is love. In the New Testament, Jesus teaches us to love our neighbors as ourselves, and he emphasizes the importance of compassion and acceptance. In Matthew 22:37-40, Jesus says, "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."
Additionally, the Bible teaches us that all human beings are created in the image of God and are inherently valuable. In Genesis 1:27, it says, "So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them." This verse highlights the fundamental dignity and worth of every person, regardless of their sexual orientation or gender identity.
Furthermore, when considering the cultural context of the biblical passages that are often cited in discussions about LGBTQ+ issues, it's important to recognize the historical and societal factors that may have influenced the original intent and interpretation of these texts.
It's also crucial to remember that the Bible has been used to justify discrimination and oppression in the past, including arguments in support of slavery and the subjugation of women. As society has progressed and our understanding of human rights and dignity has evolved, many Christians have reexamined traditional interpretations of certain biblical passages in light of these advancements.
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Hero:
@cecepitbull wrote:
people have changed it to say what they want it to say
The KJVA is the only relevant version. All others are imposters
CecePitbull:
At the heart of Jesus’ teachings is the call to love one another. This love transcends judgment, exclusion, or condemnation. Jesus himself set an example of radical inclusion, often spending time with those marginalized by society, including tax collectors, prostitutes, and lepers—people who were considered “unclean” by the religious standards of the day.
Jesus summarizes the law with two commandments:
Matthew 22:37-40: “Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: Love your neighbor as yourself. All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
Loving one’s neighbor as oneself implies respecting others’ dignity and identities, including their sexual and gender identities. The Golden Rule calls for empathy, understanding, and acceptance, regardless of differences. Homosexuals and transgender people deserve the same love and respect as anyone else, in line with Jesus' teachings.
3. The Reinterpretation of “Clobber Verses”
Some Bible verses are frequently cited as condemning homosexuality, such as Leviticus 18:22 and Romans 1:26-27. However, scholars argue that these verses need to be understood in their historical and cultural contexts.
Leviticus 18:22: “Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.”
Leviticus is part of the Old Testament law, which includes many rules that Christians do not follow today, such as prohibitions on eating shellfish, wearing mixed fabrics, or shaving. These laws were specific to the Israelite community in a certain historical context. They were not moral absolutes but part of the ritual and purity code designed to distinguish Israel from surrounding pagan nations.
Further, many scholars believe that the relationships being condemned in Leviticus were not consensual or loving but exploitative, often involving temple prostitution or domination. In contrast, modern LGBTQ+ relationships are based on mutual love and respect, and thus do not align with the situations described in Leviticus.
Romans 1:26-27: “Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones; in the same way, the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another.”
Here, Paul describes a situation in which people turn away from God and engage in idolatrous, lustful practices. This passage is less about consensual, loving same-sex relationships and more about a broader context of idolatry and excessive lust. Modern interpretations of this text suggest that Paul is not condemning homosexuality itself but the sinful behaviors surrounding idol worship. When understood in context, these “clobber verses” do not offer blanket condemnations of LGBTQ+ people.
4. Affirming Gender Diversity: The Biblical Acknowledgment of Transgender Experiences
While the Bible does not explicitly discuss transgender identity, there are passages that support the idea of diversity in gender expression. In the creation account, God creates humanity in His image:
Genesis 1:27: “So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.”
This verse has often been interpreted rigidly as a binary gender statement. However, the phrase “male and female” could be seen as encompassing the full spectrum of gender diversity. Being made in God’s image means that all people, regardless of gender identity, reflect God’s creativity and image.
Additionally, in Isaiah 56:3-5, God makes an inclusive promise to eunuchs, individuals who, in biblical times, did not fit neatly into binary categories of male or female:
“Let no foreigner who is bound to the Lord say, ‘The Lord will surely exclude me from his people.’ And let no eunuch complain, ‘I am only a dry tree.’ For this is what the Lord says: To the eunuchs who keep my Sabbaths, who choose what pleases me and hold fast to my covenant— to them I will give within my temple and its walls a memorial and a name better than sons and daughters.”
Eunuchs were often marginalized and excluded from religious life, yet God specifically includes them in His promises, offering them a place of honor. This passage highlights God’s willingness to embrace those who don’t conform to societal norms of gender or sexuality, and it can be seen as a metaphor for the inclusion of transgender and non-binary people in the faith community.
5. Jesus' Message of Inclusion and Non-Judgment
Jesus consistently demonstrated that His message was for everyone, especially those whom society often excluded. He made it clear that judgment belongs to God alone:
Matthew 7:1-2: “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.”
This call against judgment extends to all areas of life, including sexual orientation and gender identity. Jesus called His followers to focus on love and understanding rather than condemnation.
When Jesus encountered people who were marginalized or deemed sinful by others, such as the woman caught in adultery (John 8:1-11), He responded with compassion and forgiveness, not condemnation. His approach was to uplift the downtrodden and to break down barriers of exclusion. If Christians are to follow Jesus' example, they must embrace LGBTQ+ people with the same love and compassion that He demonstrated.
6. Conclusion: God’s Inclusive Love
In light of the biblical evidence, it becomes clear that God’s love and acceptance extend to all people, including homosexuals and transgender individuals. The core message of the Bible is one of love, inclusion, and grace. While some verses have been used to condemn LGBTQ+ identities, a deeper exploration reveals that these interpretations are often based on cultural and historical contexts that do not reflect modern understandings of sexuality and gender.
Ultimately, Jesus’ teachings encourage love, empathy, and non-judgment. His radical inclusivity, exemplified through His interactions with marginalized individuals, should inspire Christians to welcome and affirm LGBTQ+ people as beloved children of God. In God’s eyes, all are worthy of love and acceptance.
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search it up.
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What is "Love" according to the Bible?
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Use a plagiarization checker. There are free ones.
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Use a plagiarization checker. There are free ones.
I gave my next question.
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According to the Bible, love is the greatest commandment. Jesus teaches to "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind" and to "Love your neighbor as yourself." Love is characterized by selflessness, compassion, and empathy, and it guides believers to treat others with kindness and understanding, regardless of differences.
I'm not writing jack sh#t for you. Enjoy your AI content, which I've fact-checked.
CecePitbull:
The concept of love in the Bible is one of the most central and profound themes, often used to emphasize God's relationship with humanity and the moral responsibilities of believers. When examining whether this biblical notion of love includes and accepts LGBTQ+ individuals, we can draw on numerous passages that emphasize God's unconditional love and call for Christians to love others without judgment. Let's explore key themes and verses to understand how love, as described in the Bible, extends to the LGBTQ+ community.
1. God's Love is Unconditional and Universal
The Bible portrays God's love as unconditional and inclusive of all people, without distinction. This means that God’s love is not restricted based on one's identity, sexual orientation, or gender identity.
John 3:16: "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."
This verse emphasizes that God's love is for the entire world—everyone, without exception. There is no mention of excluding any group, whether by sexual orientation, gender identity, or any other characteristic. "Whoever believes" clearly includes all people, regardless of their differences.
Romans 5:8: "But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us."
This verse underscores that God’s love is not based on human perfection or adherence to specific rules. God's love is grace-filled and extends to all people, regardless of their status, behavior, or identity. This same grace is extended to LGBTQ+ people, who, like anyone else, are recipients of God’s redeeming love.
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According to the Bible, love is the greatest commandment. Jesus teaches to "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind" and to "Love your neighbor as yourself." Love is characterized by selflessness, compassion, and empathy, and it guides believers to treat others with kindness and understanding, regardless of differences.
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Those verses are commandments, however, they do not define what Love is. Which verse in the Bible gives the definition of Love?
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CecePitbull:
The central message of Jesus’ teaching is love. Throughout the New Testament, Jesus consistently commands His followers to love others in the same way they have been loved by God.
John 13:34-35: "A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another."
This verse highlights love as the defining characteristic of Christian discipleship. Jesus did not place conditions on this love. He did not say "love one another—except for those who are LGBTQ+." Instead, the command to love is broad, universal, and without restrictions. Love is meant to be inclusive of all people, including those with diverse sexual orientations and gender identities.
Matthew 22:37-39: "Jesus replied: ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: Love your neighbor as yourself.’"
Loving one's neighbor means treating others with the same respect, dignity, and compassion that you desire for yourself. This commandment offers no exceptions. LGBTQ+ individuals are our neighbors, and they deserve to be loved just as anyone else. To exclude them from this love would be a violation of Jesus' core teaching.
Hero:
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turntechGodhead:
The definition of love is given in 1 Corinthians 13:4-7. @hero
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The definition of love is given in 1 Corinthians 13:4-7. @hero
Incorrect. Go read the KJVA. 1 Corinthians 13:4-7 is about charity
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Why do I get the feeling you've only just realized you aren't worth our time of day, so we're using AI and fact-checking it so you shut up?
CecePitbull:
In Matthew 7:12, Jesus sums up the law and the prophets with what has become known as the Golden Rule:
"So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets."
This principle—treating others as you would want to be treated—applies universally, to everyone. LGBTQ+ individuals, like all people, are deserving of compassion, respect, and understanding. Applying the Golden Rule means embracing LGBTQ+ people with the same love and empathy that one would desire for themselves, without judgment or exclusion.
turntechGodhead:
@hero Incorrect. 1 Corinthians 13:4-7 says "Love is patient; love is kind; love is not envious or boastful or arrogant 5or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; 6it does not rejoice in wrongdoing, but rejoices in the truth. It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.".
Hero:
@turntechgodhead wrote:
In the English where it says “Man shall not lie with man, for it is an abomination,” the German version says “Man shall not lie with young boys as he does with a woman, for it is an abomination.”.
KJVA is prior to German version
CecePitbull:
Some Christians point to certain biblical passages (such as Leviticus 18:22 or Romans 1:26-27) as condemning homosexuality, but these passages must be understood in their cultural and historical context. Jesus and the New Testament writers often challenged rigid interpretations of the Law and emphasized the primacy of love over legalistic rules.
Romans 13:8-10: "Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law. The commandments... are summed up in this one command: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore, love is the fulfillment of the law."
Paul makes it clear that love is the fulfillment of the Law. Rather than adhering strictly to legalistic interpretations of ancient rules, Christians are called to focus on loving others, which in itself is a higher calling. Applying this principle means loving and accepting LGBTQ+ individuals, because love “does no harm” and seeks to include, not exclude.
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CecePitbull:
Throughout His ministry, Jesus consistently reached out to people who were marginalized and rejected by society. He broke social barriers and defied religious norms by associating with tax collectors, prostitutes, Samaritans, and others whom religious leaders considered "unclean" or "sinful."
Luke 5:30-32: "But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law who belonged to their sect complained to his disciples, 'Why do you eat and drink with tax collectors and sinners?' Jesus answered them, 'It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.'"
Jesus' example teaches us that no one is beyond God’s love and grace. While LGBTQ+ individuals are often marginalized in certain religious communities, Jesus’ ministry demonstrates a radical openness and compassion for those whom society deems “other.” His love breaks down boundaries and invites all people into a relationship with God.
Matthew 9:10-13: Jesus famously eats with sinners and tax collectors, saying, “I desire mercy, not sacrifice.”
Mercy and love, not strict adherence to laws or cultural norms, are what Jesus values. If Jesus were walking the earth today, His love and mercy would extend to LGBTQ+ individuals as much as anyone else.
CecePitbull:
The Bible's overarching message of love offers no exclusion for LGBTQ+ individuals. God's love is unconditional, and Jesus' call to love one another applies universally. When we examine the biblical mandate to love without judgment, treat others with compassion, and include those who are marginalized, it becomes clear that LGBTQ+ individuals are fully included in God’s love and grace.
To reject or exclude someone based on their sexual orientation or gender identity contradicts the Bible's deepest teachings on love. Therefore, true biblical love embraces and affirms LGBTQ+ individuals as part of the beloved community of God’s creation, worthy of dignity, respect, and unconditional love.
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German - 1522.
KJVA - 1611.
You said which was written first?
CecePitbull:
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Hero:
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@hero
German - 1522.
KJVA - 1611.
You said which was written first?
The bible wasn't given to the Germans it was given to Israel. The German version is invalid.
CecePitbull:
well it is fack checked so idrc.
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well it is fack checked so idrc.
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well it is fack checked so idrc.
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don't care. still straight fack's, dude your just mad you were proven wrong dude.
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turntechGodhead:
@hero The Luther Bible was directly translated with correct wording. It is not invalid.
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@hero The Luther Bible was directly translated with correct wording. It is not invalid.
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ARWolf1:
There are only two genders. Being trans, bi, pan, and ect. are forms of sexuality. You have to pay attention to the differences. Being gender fluid just means you go by both he/her pronouns. A girl can have surgery to be a boy, but at birth she was still a girl. If we dress up as a witch for Halloween, are we known as a witch our entire life? no. you still are biologically the gender you were born, but hormone levels are different and most with that issue who identify as trans just gets surgery done. Furthermore if you ask a group of 30 trans people the reason they had surgery done, what do you think most will say? Drag queens dress up because they Cope with it. it's their coping skills. Trans people, most, but not all, say it made them more self positive, because they felt like they didn't belong or something along thosee lines. I am sorry if this offends anyone, but this statement is facts, not opinions. At follow-up, 29 participants (14%) did not receive medical interventions, 36 hormones only (18%), and 136 hormones and surgery (68%). Most transwomen had undergone genital surgery, and most transmen chest surgery. Overall, the levels of gender dysphoria and body dissatisfaction were significantly lower at follow-up compared with clinical entry. Satisfaction with therapy responsive and unresponsive body characteristics both improved. High dissatisfaction at admission and lower psychological functioning at follow-up were associated with persistent body dissatisfaction. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5580378/
turntechGodhead:
okay... no! being trans is NOT a sexuality. GENDER and SEX are DIFFERENT. sex is what you are born as, male or female. gender is who you are. being gender fluid doesn't only mean you go by he/her, it means your gender fluctuates. gender does NOT equal pronouns. someone gender fluid could go by she/her, he/him, they/them, he/they, she/they, or anything otherwise depending on how they feel that day. a "girl" can have a surgery to become a boy, meaning he is a boy. its nothing like a boy dressing up as a 'girly' costume for Halloween. getting a surgery to be different means you are that. it isn't coping, its expression. drag queens don't 'cope', they have fun and express themselves. did you know there are female drag queens? the article you took this from or copied this from is BS. don't listen to random articles, because none of that made sense, and it is not factual. please do actual research on the topic if you're writing on it.
CecePitbull:
right and plus there is no reason to comment on this old post talking about 2 genders. trans is not a sexuality obviously. trans doesn't say anything about who you or what you like. just to put it short.
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@turntechgodhead wrote:
At the heart of the claim that the Bible is clear "that homosexuality/transgenderism is forbidden by God" is poor biblical scholarship and a cultural bias read into the Bible. The oft-used line from the Genesis creation story, actually quotes God as saying, “let us make mankind in our image”, and this God then ultimately creates both men and women. If we are to (as so many homophobic/transphobic Christians do) take these words at face value, we need to ask the question:
Which ones were created in God’s image, the males or the females?
If our answer is both (which it must be), then God is decidedly non-binary, God transcends a single gender identity—God is by nature trans-gender. We cannot have God be a He and also make women in His image—and we can’t have a God capable of creating men and women, unless God is equally made of both. These Christians wouldn’t dream of excoriating God for the fluidity, would they?
These same folks also want to use the Bible to condemn LGBTQ people and to deny them the rights of marriage and church fellowship, but they have another problem: the Bible. They have all sorts of issues to contend with there.
They’ll attempt to use the word homosexuality (which does not occur in the original texts) as an umbrella term to refer to both gender identity and sexual orientation—when the context of the translated word they’re using and the occasions it appears in Scripture, simply cannot refer to both things simultaneously. Additionally, many Transgender people are in fact, not same-sex oriented, and not accurately described by the same word Christians would use to describe a gay or lesbian person.
They like to say that the Bible declares that marriage is strictly between one man and one women, while the Old Testament, as early as Genesis’ fourth chapter is teeming with bigamy, polygamy, and extra-marital sex practiced by the lauded pillars and Patriarchs of the faith (Abraham, Gideon, Solomon, David)—not as cautionary tale, and not with rebuke, but simply as the story of God’s people. There are no definitive statements on marriage spanning the breadth of Scripture.
They’ll frequently refer to the book of Leviticus, claiming it says that “homosexuality” an abomination (a flawed talking point as we’ll discuss later)—and ignore the surrounding verses commanding that disrespectful teens and those having extramarital sex be stoned to death—along with hundreds of requirements and punishments, most of which they declare irrelevant to their present lives. It’s becomes a highly selective use of the text.
They’ll throw around the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, as supposed proof of God’s wrath against the gay community—when in fact, the book of Ezekiel 16:49 declares the former was destroyed because of its greed and disregard for the poor—but you don’t see many of these Christians preaching that sermon, especially not GOP Christians.
They’ll try to say that Jesus opposes the LGBTQ community, when he never once corrects, cautions, or condemns anyone based on their gender identity or sexual orientation. In this case, we’re supposed to believe the unspoken damnation is implied, when in reality these people are making Jesus say things he never said—simply because they want him to say it.
They’ll refer to a “homosexual lifestyle,” when the Bible is devoid of such terminology—for the simple reason that the concept itself is ludicrous and nonexistent (as proven by the fact that a “heterosexual lifestyle” makes absolutely no sense when applied to straight people.)
They’ll claim that the term homosexual refers simply to people who have sex with same gender partners, yet will also admit that their own heterosexuality, refers to far more than just their sexual activity, but to their inclinations to love, where they seek affection, intimacy, relationship. They can’t have these words work both ways. They need to decide whether the less than a handful of passages in the New Testament are referring to identity, orientation—or a specific behavior by specific groups of people in a specific context (which is likely). Great unpacking of these passages here.
They’ll quote Paul in Romans Chapter 1, describing people consciously “trading their natural attractions” for same-sex desire and corresponding physical acts), failing to connect the dots, that for most members of the LGBTQ, there is no such exchanging taking place. They aren’t feeling one thing, and choosing an alternative simply to choose. They aren’t acting in opposition to any primary inclination. Their same-sex orientation is their natural. (If pressed, these Christians need to admit that this passage refers to a specific sex act tied to pagan worship practices, and cannot be superimposed over identity and orientation—and it’s certainly not appropriate to use it to categorize committed, loving relationships by people along the full LGBTQ continuum.) When trying to use Paul’s references in this way, they’re trying to separate LGBTQ people from the capacity to love and be in mutually beneficial relationships—and that’s simply wrong.
At the end of the day, the Bible is not clear on these matters. It is cloudy and even contradictory at times. There is no consistent sexual ethic in the Scriptures, no one image of marriage—and no specific condemnation from Jesus or Paul of those who are gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgender simply because of their identity and orientation. If we can admit, that LGBTQ people have the same capacity for love, commitment, and monogamy in a mutually beneficial relationship that cisgender-heteronormative Christians do—the text becomes impossible to weaponize as it has been.
And the God of the Bible, as presented in Genesis, is himself/herself/itself an image of the beautiful spectrum of sexuality, and a defense of those who believe we each manifest this complexity in a myriad of ways.
Christians wanting to persecute the LGBTQ community have long claimed that God and the Bible are their justifications, but this simply isn’t accurate—not if they’re to use the reality of God and all the words of the Bible (not just the bits that feel like consent when isolated in social media diatribes and shouted sermons.)
These people are going to have to admit that ultimately the only authority they’re yielding to in these matters is their own (or the teachers or parents who have passed these ideas down to them. ) It is their fear, their prejudice, their lack of knowledge that causes them to lash out in hurtful words, violent rhetoric, and abject cruelty.
More and more Christians are beginning to understand this; that our faith tradition has gotten it wrong regarding sexuality, the same way it has regarding the worth of women, the plague of slavery, interracial marriage, the violence against non-Christians, and on and on. They are seeing that being LGBTQ and being Christian are not mutually exclusive. They’re seeing that a Church that honors God will welcome all people.
We’ve wasted so much time, so many resources, and so many beautiful, God-reflecting lives, because we’ve made our fear our idol and tried to retrofit God into that image. The sooner we can let go of this misplaced fervor and this fruitless fight, the sooner we can live out Jesus’ clear and unmistakable commands, that we love God and all those who share this space with us.
No, being LGBTQ is not a sin.
The sin, is the hatred that refuses to let go of that notion when evidence requires it.
(https://johnpavlovitz.com/2017/07/21/no-gay-lesbian-bisexual-transgender-not-sin/)
First I'd like to apologize on behalf of the Christians that persecute you for your beliefs. A true Christian does not judge for it says so in the bible that it is not out job to judge. We are to love our neighbors no matter their sins. We are to forgive and guide them. Not persecute. For when we persecute we are doing what the Romans did to Jesus, torturing, belittling, and slandering. A true Christian knows about what the bible actually says and understands what the Lord means when he has Prophets write his teachings down. Yes many people weaponize the Bible, but not all do it to persecute. Many fear Satan's realm and seek to persecute out of fear. Other's weaponize the Bible against Satan. Regarding you coming to church, you should be welcomed with open arms, because we are not to judge you. Another thing I'd like to set straight is that, yes, In the original text many believe that it says that homosexuality is a sin, however it is possible for a mistranslation, but some believe that the original word meant a man should not sleep with a child, nor should a woman. But again it is not our job to judge you. And yes, in the old testament polygamy marriages were popular, but when Jesus was born and living sacrifices ceased, so did most polygamy marriages. And regarding my earlier statement about man laying with child, in the time of the Lord, they viewed a child turning to an adult is when they hit puberty(menarche&spermarche). not solely based on their age. I encourage those who have been turned away from church by those who judge to go back and weaponize the Bible against them, for what drives their fear is Satan and they need to be brought back to the Lord. Into his waiting arms you should run.
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@turntechgodhead wrote:
I'd also like to point out that when God says in "our likeness" he is speaking of his angels. who are both male and female. Adam came first and is considered string, that is where many get the concept that men are the head of the house because they came first. Eve was made from Adams rib, his counterpart that was soft and feminine.
At the heart of the claim that the Bible is clear "that homosexuality/transgenderism is forbidden by God" is poor biblical scholarship and a cultural bias read into the Bible. The oft-used line from the Genesis creation story, actually quotes God as saying, “let us make mankind in our image”, and this God then ultimately creates both men and women. If we are to (as so many homophobic/transphobic Christians do) take these words at face value, we need to ask the question:
Which ones were created in God’s image, the males or the females?
If our answer is both (which it must be), then God is decidedly non-binary, God transcends a single gender identity—God is by nature trans-gender. We cannot have God be a He and also make women in His image—and we can’t have a God capable of creating men and women, unless God is equally made of both. These Christians wouldn’t dream of excoriating God for the fluidity, would they?
These same folks also want to use the Bible to condemn LGBTQ people and to deny them the rights of marriage and church fellowship, but they have another problem: the Bible. They have all sorts of issues to contend with there.
They’ll attempt to use the word homosexuality (which does not occur in the original texts) as an umbrella term to refer to both gender identity and sexual orientation—when the context of the translated word they’re using and the occasions it appears in Scripture, simply cannot refer to both things simultaneously. Additionally, many Transgender people are in fact, not same-sex oriented, and not accurately described by the same word Christians would use to describe a gay or lesbian person.
They like to say that the Bible declares that marriage is strictly between one man and one women, while the Old Testament, as early as Genesis’ fourth chapter is teeming with bigamy, polygamy, and extra-marital sex practiced by the lauded pillars and Patriarchs of the faith (Abraham, Gideon, Solomon, David)—not as cautionary tale, and not with rebuke, but simply as the story of God’s people. There are no definitive statements on marriage spanning the breadth of Scripture.
They’ll frequently refer to the book of Leviticus, claiming it says that “homosexuality” an abomination (a flawed talking point as we’ll discuss later)—and ignore the surrounding verses commanding that disrespectful teens and those having extramarital sex be stoned to death—along with hundreds of requirements and punishments, most of which they declare irrelevant to their present lives. It’s becomes a highly selective use of the text.
They’ll throw around the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, as supposed proof of God’s wrath against the gay community—when in fact, the book of Ezekiel 16:49 declares the former was destroyed because of its greed and disregard for the poor—but you don’t see many of these Christians preaching that sermon, especially not GOP Christians.
They’ll try to say that Jesus opposes the LGBTQ community, when he never once corrects, cautions, or condemns anyone based on their gender identity or sexual orientation. In this case, we’re supposed to believe the unspoken damnation is implied, when in reality these people are making Jesus say things he never said—simply because they want him to say it.
They’ll refer to a “homosexual lifestyle,” when the Bible is devoid of such terminology—for the simple reason that the concept itself is ludicrous and nonexistent (as proven by the fact that a “heterosexual lifestyle” makes absolutely no sense when applied to straight people.)
They’ll claim that the term homosexual refers simply to people who have sex with same gender partners, yet will also admit that their own heterosexuality, refers to far more than just their sexual activity, but to their inclinations to love, where they seek affection, intimacy, relationship. They can’t have these words work both ways. They need to decide whether the less than a handful of passages in the New Testament are referring to identity, orientation—or a specific behavior by specific groups of people in a specific context (which is likely). Great unpacking of these passages here.
They’ll quote Paul in Romans Chapter 1, describing people consciously “trading their natural attractions” for same-sex desire and corresponding physical acts), failing to connect the dots, that for most members of the LGBTQ, there is no such exchanging taking place. They aren’t feeling one thing, and choosing an alternative simply to choose. They aren’t acting in opposition to any primary inclination. Their same-sex orientation is their natural. (If pressed, these Christians need to admit that this passage refers to a specific sex act tied to pagan worship practices, and cannot be superimposed over identity and orientation—and it’s certainly not appropriate to use it to categorize committed, loving relationships by people along the full LGBTQ continuum.) When trying to use Paul’s references in this way, they’re trying to separate LGBTQ people from the capacity to love and be in mutually beneficial relationships—and that’s simply wrong.
At the end of the day, the Bible is not clear on these matters. It is cloudy and even contradictory at times. There is no consistent sexual ethic in the Scriptures, no one image of marriage—and no specific condemnation from Jesus or Paul of those who are gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgender simply because of their identity and orientation. If we can admit, that LGBTQ people have the same capacity for love, commitment, and monogamy in a mutually beneficial relationship that cisgender-heteronormative Christians do—the text becomes impossible to weaponize as it has been.
And the God of the Bible, as presented in Genesis, is himself/herself/itself an image of the beautiful spectrum of sexuality, and a defense of those who believe we each manifest this complexity in a myriad of ways.
Christians wanting to persecute the LGBTQ community have long claimed that God and the Bible are their justifications, but this simply isn’t accurate—not if they’re to use the reality of God and all the words of the Bible (not just the bits that feel like consent when isolated in social media diatribes and shouted sermons.)
These people are going to have to admit that ultimately the only authority they’re yielding to in these matters is their own (or the teachers or parents who have passed these ideas down to them. ) It is their fear, their prejudice, their lack of knowledge that causes them to lash out in hurtful words, violent rhetoric, and abject cruelty.
More and more Christians are beginning to understand this; that our faith tradition has gotten it wrong regarding sexuality, the same way it has regarding the worth of women, the plague of slavery, interracial marriage, the violence against non-Christians, and on and on. They are seeing that being LGBTQ and being Christian are not mutually exclusive. They’re seeing that a Church that honors God will welcome all people.
We’ve wasted so much time, so many resources, and so many beautiful, God-reflecting lives, because we’ve made our fear our idol and tried to retrofit God into that image. The sooner we can let go of this misplaced fervor and this fruitless fight, the sooner we can live out Jesus’ clear and unmistakable commands, that we love God and all those who share this space with us.
No, being LGBTQ is not a sin.
The sin, is the hatred that refuses to let go of that notion when evidence requires it.
(https://johnpavlovitz.com/2017/07/21/no-gay-lesbian-bisexual-transgender-not-sin/)
First I'd like to apologize on behalf of the Christians that persecute you for your beliefs. A true Christian does not judge for it says so in the bible that it is not out job to judge. We are to love our neighbors no matter their sins. We are to forgive and guide them. Not persecute. For when we persecute we are doing what the Romans did to Jesus, torturing, belittling, and slandering. A true Christian knows about what the bible actually says and understands what the Lord means when he has Prophets write his teachings down. Yes many people weaponize the Bible, but not all do it to persecute. Many fear Satan's realm and seek to persecute out of fear. Other's weaponize the Bible against Satan. Regarding you coming to church, you should be welcomed with open arms, because we are not to judge you. Another thing I'd like to set straight is that, yes, In the original text many believe that it says that homosexuality is a sin, however it is possible for a mistranslation, but some believe that the original word meant a man should not sleep with a child, nor should a woman. But again it is not our job to judge you. And yes, in the old testament polygamy marriages were popular, but when Jesus was born and living sacrifices ceased, so did most polygamy marriages. And regarding my earlier statement about man laying with child, in the time of the Lord, they viewed a child turning to an adult is when they hit puberty(menarche&spermarche). not solely based on their age. I encourage those who have been turned away from church by those who judge to go back and weaponize the Bible against them, for what drives their fear is Satan and they need to be brought back to the Lord. Into his waiting arms you should run.
ARWolf1:
@turntechgodhead wrote:
okay... no! being trans is NOT a sexuality. GENDER and SEX are DIFFERENT. sex is what you are born as, male or female. gender is who you are. being gender fluid doesn't only mean you go by he/her, it means your gender fluctuates. gender does NOT equal pronouns. someone gender fluid could go by she/her, he/him, they/them, he/they, she/they, or anything otherwise depending on how they feel that day. a "girl" can have a surgery to become a boy, meaning he is a boy. its nothing like a boy dressing up as a 'girly' costume for Halloween. getting a surgery to be different means you are that. it isn't coping, its expression. drag queens don't 'cope', they have fun and express themselves. did you know there are female drag queens? the article you took this from or copied this from is BS. don't listen to random articles, because none of that made sense, and it is not factual. please do actual research on the topic if you're writing on it.
I hear you and if you need to talk to someone I'm here.
turntechGodhead:
goated response thank you for not being a Cheese and actually complying
turntechGodhead:
Pear*
not cheese
turntechGodhead:
god nvm
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ARWolf1:
@turntechgodhead wrote:
goated response thank you for not being a Cheese and actually complying
why God nvm?
turntechGodhead:
im saying like oh my lord nevermind oh my gosh yk
i don't believe in god so I'm not all out for the don't say his name in vain stuff
qc keeps censoring me
sllo:
Its bc gen z is mutual gay
Cloud4444:
@turntechgodhead wrote:
Why do I get the feeling you've only just realized you aren't worth our time of day, so we're using AI and fact-checking it so you shut up?
Actually, you chose to comment on his post, and lots of others are also CHOOSING to participate in this conversation, so how about YOU shut your fat Fuccing mouth