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OpenStudy (anonymous):

The figure (Figure 1) shows voltage and current graphs for a resistor. Draw the resistor’s voltage and current phasors at t=15ms. Draw the vectors with their tails at the origin. The orientation of your vectors will be graded. The exact length of your vectors will not be graded.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

f=25 hz and r=20 ohms. not sure how to do the graph

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@ganeshie8 , do you have any idea?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

Can you identify the phase angle; the difference in phase between the voltage and current?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no.

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

at t= 0 the phasor is vertical, because this is a cosine. you are asked to rotate the phasor to t = 15ms you have been told freq -- and you can also see period from the drawing.... .04s so you can figure out how far through a 2π cycle the phasor is at t = 15ms which gives you the vectors angle.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how do i do that??

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

it takes 40ms for a fully cycle. do you see that from the wave diagram?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah, i was able to find the resistance and hz without problem, but i can't figure out how to do angle.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it wasn't given to us. we solved for it

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

well at t= 0, the angle is pi/2, right? it's a cosine wave. agree?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah, some of the equations are cos wt and some are sin wt. so i'm confused

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

wouldn't get tied up in stuff like that, the vector at t= 0 has to point up in the vertical direction because V(t) = Vmax at t= 0. thus you are measuring from that point. the amount you have to measure? well the period is .04s = 40ms. so the vector rotates a full 2π in 40ms. the question is, how much does it rotate in 15ms. that is what you are drawing the phasor for.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

2pi*.015/.04=2.35, but how is that an angle?

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

hint: we can write both your function, voltage and current as below: \[\Large \begin{gathered} V\left( t \right) = 10\cos \left( {\frac{{2\pi }}{{0.04}}t} \right) \hfill \\ I\left( t \right) = 0.50\cos \left( {\frac{{2\pi }}{{0.04}}t} \right) \hfill \\ \end{gathered} \]

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

functions*

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes, but how does that give you an angle?

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

@saiken2009 keep the π in the angle and remember that 2π = 360, yes?

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

convert to degrees if you are using a protractor

OpenStudy (anonymous):

3pi/4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is that for current or voltage? we need two vectors.

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

maybe these formulas can be useful: \[\Large \begin{gathered} V\left( t \right) = 10\cos \left( {\frac{{2\pi }}{{0.04}}t} \right) = 10\sin \left( {\frac{{2\pi }}{{0.04}}t + \frac{\pi }{2}} \right) \hfill \\ I\left( t \right) = 0.50\cos \left( {\frac{{2\pi }}{{0.04}}t} \right) = 0.50\sin \left( {\frac{{2\pi }}{{0.04}}t + \frac{\pi }{2}} \right) \hfill \\ \end{gathered} \]

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

since we have to work with sinusoidal functions

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok, so one of you is using sin, the other cosine. i'm getting more confused..............

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

more explanation: here is the relationship between rotating vectors and sinusoidal functions: |dw:1430309800150:dw|

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